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This may not be entirely appropriate to the reasons behind the article, but it feels tangentially related: I'd like to say a brief thank you to what the brief,

This may not be entirely appropriate to the reasons behind the article, but it feels tangentially related: I'd like to say a brief thank you to what the brief, golden period of globalisation was able to bring us. I hope that that level of international trade and economic cooperation across geographical, ideological, political, and religious boundaries can be achieved again at some point in the future, but it seems the pendulum is swinging the other way for the time being. I hope that, wherever the current direction ends up, there are lessons that can be learnt about what we had, and somehow fumbled, such that there is motivation enough to get back there.

stronglikedan 7mo ago
> I hope that that level of international trade and economic cooperation across geographical, ideological, political, and religious boundaries can be achieved again at some point in the future Me too, but without all the slavery this time please. It'll never work if some actors are willing to abuse their workforces to keep prices low as they do.
3abiton 7mo ago
It is amazing how you can order so many small sensors from aliexpress, around 1-2€ each, and having in a week or two delivered. I am not sure we will have this for long.
stuxnet79 7mo ago
> I'd like to say a brief thank you to what the brief, golden period of globalisation was able to bring us. Not everyone benefited. Market globalism wasn't particularly kind to the global south, and the specific mandates that the WTO enacted on countries in latin america / africa (Washington Consensus) greatly increased local wealth disparities despite visibly growing GDP for a time. America profited handsomely because for most of the past 30 years, it was where the (future) transnational conglomerates were based. These companies stood to benefit from the opening up of international markets. Now that these companies are being out-competed by their asian counterparts, instead of going back to the drawing board and innovating they are playing the "unfair trade practices" card and of course the current administration is on-board with it. Globalisation is not going anywhere, but America is increasingly alienating itself from allies who it could stand to benefit from.
- alsetmusic 7mo ago
  > but America is increasingly alienating itself from allies who it could stand to benefit from. We're a clown show and we don't deserve to have friends until we get our shit together.
  - BLKNSLVR 7mo ago
    And "your shit" is spreading further and further, press conference by press conference. In the last hour or two the great man dropped this quote regarding NATO: "We would have always been there for them, but now, based on their actions, I guess we don't have to be, do we?" Trump told the audience. "That sounds like a breaking story? Yes, sir. Is that breaking news? I think we just have breaking news, but that's the fact. I've been saying that. Why would we be there for them if they're not there for us? They weren't there for us." I can't imagine how long it will take to get this shit back together enough that the US can be trusted again by the international community. One responsible government just means that everything that could be built within the four years of their administration could be torn up, burnt, shat on, and buried within two weeks of a new administration. And yet there seems to be a base 30% support for the current behaviour. I think the first thing to try and fix is the education system.
themafia 7mo ago
> golden period of globalisation The largest upward transfer of wealth in Earth's history. > was able to bring us. A useless race to the bottom. > that can be learnt about what we had Rebadged imperialism. If you constantly screw native populations out of the value of their resources you will lose everything you build with those resources. Literally the lesson: make fair deals or die.
- BLKNSLVR 7mo ago
  I entirely agree that the best, sustainable, and humanitarian parts of globalisation should be the ideal that's worked towards in the future. The uber-profit-driven enrichment of a very small group of people at the cost of entire communities or even populations should be rewarded with, like you say, death.

stronglikedan 7mo ago

> I hope that that level of international trade and economic cooperation across geographical, ideological, political, and religious boundaries can be achieved again at some point in the future Me too, but without all the slavery this time please. It'll never work if some actors are willing to abuse their workforces to keep prices low as they do.

3abiton 7mo ago

It is amazing how you can order so many small sensors from aliexpress, around 1-2€ each, and having in a week or two delivered. I am not sure we will have this for long.

stuxnet79 7mo ago

> I'd like to say a brief thank you to what the brief, golden period of globalisation was able to bring us. Not everyone benefited. Market globalism wasn't particularly kind to the global south, and the specific mandates that the WTO enacted on countries in latin america / africa (Washington Consensus) greatly increased local wealth disparities despite visibly growing GDP for a time. America profited handsomely because for most of the past 30 years, it was where the (future) transnational conglomerates were based. These companies stood to benefit from the opening up of international markets. Now that these companies are being out-competed by their asian counterparts, instead of going back to the drawing board and innovating they are playing the "unfair trade practices" card and of course the current administration is on-board with it. Globalisation is not going anywhere, but America is increasingly alienating itself from allies who it could stand to benefit from.

alsetmusic 7mo ago
> but America is increasingly alienating itself from allies who it could stand to benefit from. We're a clown show and we don't deserve to have friends until we get our shit together.
- BLKNSLVR 7mo ago
  And "your shit" is spreading further and further, press conference by press conference. In the last hour or two the great man dropped this quote regarding NATO: "We would have always been there for them, but now, based on their actions, I guess we don't have to be, do we?" Trump told the audience. "That sounds like a breaking story? Yes, sir. Is that breaking news? I think we just have breaking news, but that's the fact. I've been saying that. Why would we be there for them if they're not there for us? They weren't there for us." I can't imagine how long it will take to get this shit back together enough that the US can be trusted again by the international community. One responsible government just means that everything that could be built within the four years of their administration could be torn up, burnt, shat on, and buried within two weeks of a new administration. And yet there seems to be a base 30% support for the current behaviour. I think the first thing to try and fix is the education system.

themafia 7mo ago

> golden period of globalisation The largest upward transfer of wealth in Earth's history. > was able to bring us. A useless race to the bottom. > that can be learnt about what we had Rebadged imperialism. If you constantly screw native populations out of the value of their resources you will lose everything you build with those resources. Literally the lesson: make fair deals or die.

BLKNSLVR 7mo ago
I entirely agree that the best, sustainable, and humanitarian parts of globalisation should be the ideal that's worked towards in the future. The uber-profit-driven enrichment of a very small group of people at the cost of entire communities or even populations should be rewarded with, like you say, death.