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I don't see the issue - the creator is reserving the right to create their own paid hosted version?

EvanAnderson 8mo ago
That's absolutely fine for them, but they shouldn't call it "Open-source" and "Fully open source" (like they do on the linked page). This software is source-available. Open Source licenses don't discriminate on the basis use of the software. Using the term Open Source for license like this is dishonest. It seeks to profit from the goodwill from actual Open Source software.
- gardnr 8mo ago
  I appreciate your view but consensus reality does not agree: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_source https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_source
  - EvanAnderson 8mo ago
    I can link to community-edited articles, too: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Source_Definition https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Source_Definition We make the consensus reality. I'm part of the faction that wants this particular reality, so I advocate for it.
    - eudoxus 8mo ago
      OSD !== Open Source. All OSD is Open Source, not all Open Source is OSD. You are free to disagree, but the OSI has chosen (more accurately forced to choose) very explicitly to only define and trademark OSD. There's really not much more to the conversation then that.
- prohobo 8mo ago
  Maybe you're right, but FSL/BSL is arguably "more open source" than GPL. We all know GPL is a poison pill that kills commercial use, while FSL/BSL just blocks competitors from stealing your app.
  - Orygin 8mo ago
    That's not even remotely true. GPL does not prevent any commercial use, when others (like BSL or the O'Sassy license here) explicitly prevent commercial use...
    - prohobo 8mo ago
      Are you kidding me? If you link against a GPL library in a proprietary commercial app, the GPL's copyleft infects that code and you'd have to release it under GPL. Explain to me how that doesn't prevent commercial use? Are you going to say "well technically it doesn't prevent it"? No one cares. Commercial projects avoid GPL like the plague.

That's absolutely fine for them, but they shouldn't call it "Open-source" and "Fully open source" (like they do on the linked page). This software is source-available. Open Source licenses don't discriminate on the basis use of the software. Using the term Open Source for license like this is dishonest. It seeks to profit from the goodwill from actual Open Source software.

gardnr 8mo ago
I appreciate your view but consensus reality does not agree: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_source https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_source
- EvanAnderson 8mo ago
  I can link to community-edited articles, too: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Source_Definition https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Source_Definition We make the consensus reality. I'm part of the faction that wants this particular reality, so I advocate for it.
  - eudoxus 8mo ago
    OSD !== Open Source. All OSD is Open Source, not all Open Source is OSD. You are free to disagree, but the OSI has chosen (more accurately forced to choose) very explicitly to only define and trademark OSD. There's really not much more to the conversation then that.
prohobo 8mo ago
Maybe you're right, but FSL/BSL is arguably "more open source" than GPL. We all know GPL is a poison pill that kills commercial use, while FSL/BSL just blocks competitors from stealing your app.
- Orygin 8mo ago
  That's not even remotely true. GPL does not prevent any commercial use, when others (like BSL or the O'Sassy license here) explicitly prevent commercial use...
  - prohobo 8mo ago
    Are you kidding me? If you link against a GPL library in a proprietary commercial app, the GPL's copyleft infects that code and you'd have to release it under GPL. Explain to me how that doesn't prevent commercial use? Are you going to say "well technically it doesn't prevent it"? No one cares. Commercial projects avoid GPL like the plague.