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Women would win almost no sports competition. Maybe that is fine in your view, but many women want to have a chance at winning.

by ImJamal 7mo ago

puppykito 7mo ago
And apparently trans women do not want that same chance at winning lol. I find it appalling that only cis women get to have that chance, while literally banning trans women (and some unconventional cis women too) because of the way they were born and brought up. Like that is the definition of discrimination one way or another.
- ImJamal 7mo ago
  Transwomen are not banned. They are free to compete in the open (men's) competitions if they want.
nekusar 7mo ago
Well, its either "remove all gender from classification", or "we're doing crotch and blood checks to verify if youre a woman". And since you have to "prove youre a woman", thats like having to prove a disability. Is that the message we want to send to all women? I dont want to send that. Evidently, the IOC is choosing the onerous route of crotch and blood checks. And about the "Women would win almost no sports competition.". Well, the thought of "get good" comes to mind. Supposedly, more competition is better for everyone.
- ImJamal 7mo ago
  > Well, its either "remove all gender from classification", or "we're doing crotch and blood checks to verify if youre a woman". Correct. > And since you have to "prove youre a woman", thats like having to prove a disability. Is that the message we want to send to all women? I dont want to send that. Comparing womenhood to a disability is certainly a position to take. I wouldn't want to send that message to women, but you do you. In terms of your main point, I want to send a message to women they have a chance of winning. If you have only one competition in the Olympics I'm not sure if a woman would win a single competition in the Winter Olympics except maybe curling? > And about the "Women would win almost no sports competition.". Well, the thought of "get good" comes to mind. Supposedly, more competition is better for everyone. Do you want only men competing? Because that is what you are going to get. Maybe you don't care about diversity, but many people do. Many young girls want to look up to a woman skier or snowboarder and think I could do that. Maybe you just don't care about that?

Women would win almost no sports competition. Maybe that is fine in your view, but many women want to have a chance at winning.

by ImJamal 7mo ago

Women would win almost no sports competition. Maybe that is fine in your view, but many women want to have a chance at winning.

puppykito 7mo ago

And apparently trans women do not want that same chance at winning lol. I find it appalling that only cis women get to have that chance, while literally banning trans women (and some unconventional cis women too) because of the way they were born and brought up. Like that is the definition of discrimination one way or another.

ImJamal 7mo ago
Transwomen are not banned. They are free to compete in the open (men's) competitions if they want.

nekusar 7mo ago

Well, its either "remove all gender from classification", or "we're doing crotch and blood checks to verify if youre a woman". And since you have to "prove youre a woman", thats like having to prove a disability. Is that the message we want to send to all women? I dont want to send that. Evidently, the IOC is choosing the onerous route of crotch and blood checks. And about the "Women would win almost no sports competition.". Well, the thought of "get good" comes to mind. Supposedly, more competition is better for everyone.

ImJamal 7mo ago
> Well, its either "remove all gender from classification", or "we're doing crotch and blood checks to verify if youre a woman". Correct. > And since you have to "prove youre a woman", thats like having to prove a disability. Is that the message we want to send to all women? I dont want to send that. Comparing womenhood to a disability is certainly a position to take. I wouldn't want to send that message to women, but you do you. In terms of your main point, I want to send a message to women they have a chance of winning. If you have only one competition in the Olympics I'm not sure if a woman would win a single competition in the Winter Olympics except maybe curling? > And about the "Women would win almost no sports competition.". Well, the thought of "get good" comes to mind. Supposedly, more competition is better for everyone. Do you want only men competing? Because that is what you are going to get. Maybe you don't care about diversity, but many people do. Many young girls want to look up to a woman skier or snowboarder and think I could do that. Maybe you just don't care about that?