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Already exists, it's what people refer to as "male olympics". As far as I know, females aren't banned from competing. It is just that they don't stand a chance

by cm2187 7mo ago

Already exists, it's what people refer to as "male olympics". As far as I know, females aren't banned from competing. It is just that they don't stand a chance in most disciplines. The whole point of female olympics is to keep males out.

xeonmc 7mo ago
Can trans male who transitioned before puberty compete in male olympics while being pumped full of steroids legally?
- mikkupikku 7mo ago
  Maybe they should accept that they simply aren't competitive if they can't compete against their own sex. There's no shame in it, most people aren't competitive, certainly so at this level.
UncleMeat 7mo ago
That’s not true. Men’s gymnastics and women’s gymnastics are totally different sets of events and men would get trounced in a women’s event.
- deleted 7mo ago
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- zahlman 7mo ago
  Putting aside that you argue entirely by assertion, that is one discipline, which therefore does not contradict the claim about "most disciplines". Meanwhile the gap is well known to be massive in typical events, e.g.: * Compare https://worldpowerlifting.com/records/womens-world-records/ https://worldpowerlifting.com/records/womens-world-records/ vs https://worldpowerlifting.com/records/mens-world-records/ https://worldpowerlifting.com/records/mens-world-records/ (or for that matter, browse through https://exrx.net/Testing/WeightLifting/StrengthStandards https://exrx.net/Testing/WeightLifting/StrengthStandards) * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women's_100_metres_world_record_progression https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women's_100_metres_world_recor... plateaued at numbers seen in men's competition over a century ago; a "sub-elite" female competitor sprints barely ahead of "intermediate recreational" men per https://marathonhandbook.com/average-100-meter-time/ https://marathonhandbook.com/average-100-meter-time/ . Griffith-Joyner's record-setting time would not have even qualified her to run with men since at least 2000: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/100_metres_at_the_Olympics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/100_metres_at_the_Olympics * I often hear it suggested that women show an advantage in longer races, but even at standard marathon length this is not borne out in results: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Boston_Marathon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Boston_Marathon * National and international level competitive women's sports teams regularly get trounced by teenaged boys in exhibition e.g. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDH_r7-GN4o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDH_r7-GN4o widely reported on last year and https://www.cbssports.com/soccer/news/a-dallas-fc-under-15-boys-squad-beat-the-u-s-womens-national-team-in-a-scrimmage/ https://www.cbssports.com/soccer/news/a-dallas-fc-under-15-b... from 2017 * The entire history of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Sexes_(tennis) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Sexes_(tennis) requires quite a bit of creative interpretation to put women's tennis anywhere near the level of men's That's just off the top of my head of anecdotes and examples I can recall being casually thrown around in these sorts of discussions.
- fourseventy 7mo ago
  Only because they don't practice those events... If men practices those events they would be better at them
  - UncleMeat 7mo ago
    I'm not sure that is true. Beam targets flexibility in ways that no men's event does.
- Yizahi 7mo ago
  Confidently incorrect. As an example - a banned Thomas salto had been developed and performed by a male gymnast first, and afterwards women starting trying to do it too. This is an anecdote example, but it shows that gymnastics is not some women dominated sport. As another example - four out of four named jumps in the figure skating are all named by male athletes who performed them first.

by cm2187 7mo ago

xeonmc 7mo ago

Can trans male who transitioned before puberty compete in male olympics while being pumped full of steroids legally?

mikkupikku 7mo ago
Maybe they should accept that they simply aren't competitive if they can't compete against their own sex. There's no shame in it, most people aren't competitive, certainly so at this level.

UncleMeat 7mo ago

That’s not true. Men’s gymnastics and women’s gymnastics are totally different sets of events and men would get trounced in a women’s event.

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zahlman 7mo ago
Putting aside that you argue entirely by assertion, that is one discipline, which therefore does not contradict the claim about "most disciplines". Meanwhile the gap is well known to be massive in typical events, e.g.: * Compare https://worldpowerlifting.com/records/womens-world-records/ https://worldpowerlifting.com/records/womens-world-records/ vs https://worldpowerlifting.com/records/mens-world-records/ https://worldpowerlifting.com/records/mens-world-records/ (or for that matter, browse through https://exrx.net/Testing/WeightLifting/StrengthStandards https://exrx.net/Testing/WeightLifting/StrengthStandards) * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women's_100_metres_world_record_progression https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women's_100_metres_world_recor... plateaued at numbers seen in men's competition over a century ago; a "sub-elite" female competitor sprints barely ahead of "intermediate recreational" men per https://marathonhandbook.com/average-100-meter-time/ https://marathonhandbook.com/average-100-meter-time/ . Griffith-Joyner's record-setting time would not have even qualified her to run with men since at least 2000: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/100_metres_at_the_Olympics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/100_metres_at_the_Olympics * I often hear it suggested that women show an advantage in longer races, but even at standard marathon length this is not borne out in results: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Boston_Marathon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Boston_Marathon * National and international level competitive women's sports teams regularly get trounced by teenaged boys in exhibition e.g. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDH_r7-GN4o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDH_r7-GN4o widely reported on last year and https://www.cbssports.com/soccer/news/a-dallas-fc-under-15-boys-squad-beat-the-u-s-womens-national-team-in-a-scrimmage/ https://www.cbssports.com/soccer/news/a-dallas-fc-under-15-b... from 2017 * The entire history of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Sexes_(tennis) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Sexes_(tennis) requires quite a bit of creative interpretation to put women's tennis anywhere near the level of men's That's just off the top of my head of anecdotes and examples I can recall being casually thrown around in these sorts of discussions.
fourseventy 7mo ago
Only because they don't practice those events... If men practices those events they would be better at them
- UncleMeat 7mo ago
  I'm not sure that is true. Beam targets flexibility in ways that no men's event does.
Yizahi 7mo ago
Confidently incorrect. As an example - a banned Thomas salto had been developed and performed by a male gymnast first, and afterwards women starting trying to do it too. This is an anecdote example, but it shows that gymnastics is not some women dominated sport. As another example - four out of four named jumps in the figure skating are all named by male athletes who performed them first.