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Do you think I just gave isolated examples? I gave actual news articles because you would make up stuff and say its not real. These are part of a large trend. I

Do you think I just gave isolated examples? I gave actual news articles because you would make up stuff and say its not real. These are part of a large trend. Its funny how providing actual hard facts, reported in Israeli media itself, gets me accused of being biased. Palestine is a fun example. Why limit your looking back to such a short period. Let us rewind a few more decades. Israel itself is the product of violent terrorism and displacement. Israeli's are such nice people they bombed a hotel with innocent British and Arab people and then a future prime minister was from the very terrorist organization. Israel has been belligerent and violent from the very start.

theonething 7mo ago
> Do you think I just gave isolated examples? I gave actual news articles because you would make up stuff and say its not real. These are part of a large trend. You're not being coherent here. What exactly is your point? Yes, you did give an isolated example. How exactly would I make stuff up and say it's not real? If IDF soldiers shooting children unprovoked is part of a large trend, surely this would be documented and reported somewhere? > providing actual hard facts Again, where are your hard facts that Israeli's shooting children is a large trend? You merely claiming it doesn't make it a hard fact. The Palestinians crossed into Israel on Oct 7th, killed and raped music festival attendees, shot families in their homes and kidnapped and hid them in secret tunnels. None of these victims were remotely militant; not even lifting a rock at their murderers. They were living their lives and were viciously attacked. These are hard facts. > Israeli's are such nice people they bombed a hotel with innocent British and Arab people The King David hotel bombing was done by the paramilitary group Irgun. After Israel attained statehood, it outlawed the Irgun group, declaring it a terrorist organization. The World Zionist Congress also condemned Irgun's violence. Sorry, your example not only fails prove your point, it does the opposite.
- donkeybeer 7mo ago
  As I said you beautifully ignored who started the conflict, it hardly began on Oct 7. The prime minister literally came out of irgun the terrorist group. Its a known fact. I just gave one example, you can easily search and see how IDF loves killing children. And what kind of trend do you need for showing the nature of a peoples who literally cheer and celebrate a rapist being freed from jail?
  - theonething 7mo ago
    > As I said you beautifully ignored who started the conflict, it hardly began on Oct 7 In 1947, the UN passed the United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine. It called for a two state solution, one for the Arabs and one for Israel. Britain supported it, the Jewish Agency supported it. Everyone supported it with the exception of, you guessed it, the Arabs. The Jewish were willing to compromise. Arabs, nope. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Partition_Plan_for_Palestine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Partition_Plan_... Immediately after the Partition Plan was adopted by the UN, the 1948 Palestine War started. Guess who attacked first and started it? You guessed it, the Arabs. > The prime minister literally came out of irgun the terrorist group. Its a known fact. Sorry, you're getting your facts wrong again. In this list of members of Irgun, do a ctrl-f on Netanyahu and see what you get. That's right, nothing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Irgun_members https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Irgun_members > And you don't need to ask me, just listen to the direct words of Bibi, Bezalel Smotrich and other Israeli government representatives how they want "Greater Israel" and wish for expansionism. "From the river to the sea, Palestine must be free" - Palestinian chant In a survey conducted by the Arab World for Research and Development 74.7% Palestinians agreed that they support a single Palestinian state "from the river to the sea", while only 5.4% of respondents supported a "one-state for two peoples" solution. 3 out 4 Palestinians supported the Oct 7 massacre of Israelis Who is expansionist now? When you have a group who's ideological goal has always been to exterminate the Jewish people and Israel, Israel must defend itself.
    - donkeybeer 7mo ago
      The King David Hotel bombing wasn't started by arabs, it occurred much before the 48 date you have given. Its clear who started shit. I wasn't talking about Netanyahu coming from Irgun but two other past prime ministers. >From the river to the sea Its very pleasing you quoted this slogan. And you accuse me of being biased? Do you know which Israeli political party's slogan this is? Tell me, is this fake news: https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/smotrich-calls-israels-borders-extend-damascus https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/smotrich-calls-israels-bo... ? Or any of the politicians quotes here? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Israel https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Israel

theonething 7mo ago

> Do you think I just gave isolated examples? I gave actual news articles because you would make up stuff and say its not real. These are part of a large trend. You're not being coherent here. What exactly is your point? Yes, you did give an isolated example. How exactly would I make stuff up and say it's not real? If IDF soldiers shooting children unprovoked is part of a large trend, surely this would be documented and reported somewhere? > providing actual hard facts Again, where are your hard facts that Israeli's shooting children is a large trend? You merely claiming it doesn't make it a hard fact. The Palestinians crossed into Israel on Oct 7th, killed and raped music festival attendees, shot families in their homes and kidnapped and hid them in secret tunnels. None of these victims were remotely militant; not even lifting a rock at their murderers. They were living their lives and were viciously attacked. These are hard facts. > Israeli's are such nice people they bombed a hotel with innocent British and Arab people The King David hotel bombing was done by the paramilitary group Irgun. After Israel attained statehood, it outlawed the Irgun group, declaring it a terrorist organization. The World Zionist Congress also condemned Irgun's violence. Sorry, your example not only fails prove your point, it does the opposite.

donkeybeer 7mo ago
As I said you beautifully ignored who started the conflict, it hardly began on Oct 7. The prime minister literally came out of irgun the terrorist group. Its a known fact. I just gave one example, you can easily search and see how IDF loves killing children. And what kind of trend do you need for showing the nature of a peoples who literally cheer and celebrate a rapist being freed from jail?
- theonething 7mo ago
  > As I said you beautifully ignored who started the conflict, it hardly began on Oct 7 In 1947, the UN passed the United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine. It called for a two state solution, one for the Arabs and one for Israel. Britain supported it, the Jewish Agency supported it. Everyone supported it with the exception of, you guessed it, the Arabs. The Jewish were willing to compromise. Arabs, nope. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Partition_Plan_for_Palestine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Partition_Plan_... Immediately after the Partition Plan was adopted by the UN, the 1948 Palestine War started. Guess who attacked first and started it? You guessed it, the Arabs. > The prime minister literally came out of irgun the terrorist group. Its a known fact. Sorry, you're getting your facts wrong again. In this list of members of Irgun, do a ctrl-f on Netanyahu and see what you get. That's right, nothing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Irgun_members https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Irgun_members > And you don't need to ask me, just listen to the direct words of Bibi, Bezalel Smotrich and other Israeli government representatives how they want "Greater Israel" and wish for expansionism. "From the river to the sea, Palestine must be free" - Palestinian chant In a survey conducted by the Arab World for Research and Development 74.7% Palestinians agreed that they support a single Palestinian state "from the river to the sea", while only 5.4% of respondents supported a "one-state for two peoples" solution. 3 out 4 Palestinians supported the Oct 7 massacre of Israelis Who is expansionist now? When you have a group who's ideological goal has always been to exterminate the Jewish people and Israel, Israel must defend itself.
  - donkeybeer 7mo ago
    The King David Hotel bombing wasn't started by arabs, it occurred much before the 48 date you have given. Its clear who started shit. I wasn't talking about Netanyahu coming from Irgun but two other past prime ministers. >From the river to the sea Its very pleasing you quoted this slogan. And you accuse me of being biased? Do you know which Israeli political party's slogan this is? Tell me, is this fake news: https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/smotrich-calls-israels-borders-extend-damascus https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/smotrich-calls-israels-bo... ? Or any of the politicians quotes here? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Israel https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Israel