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Gotta admit that it didn't occur to me that "can it run DOOM?" would stretch all the way to DNS. At this point I am wondering if people will somehow port DOOM

by tombert 7mo ago

Gotta admit that it didn't occur to me that "can it run DOOM?" would stretch all the way to DNS. At this point I am wondering if people will somehow port DOOM over to the MONIAC.

bigwheels 7mo ago
Which is more ambitious, targeting the MONIAC platform or ENIAC? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ENIAC https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ENIAC https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phillips_Machine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phillips_Machine (MONIAC) I'd say both are looking increasingly doable.
sssilver 7mo ago
“Run” is doing a lot of heavy lifting at this point.
- mistyvales 7mo ago
  I remember the pregnancy test Doom. Wasn't it "running" on the display only?
  - deathanatos 7mo ago
    Yes, I think it was, but that was also b/c, IIRC, the pregnancy tester had a CPU, too. A CPU can actually run things. DNS … cannot, and that's why the person upthread is criticizing the use of the word "run" here. DNS ran nothing.
    - anthk 7mo ago
      No it wasn't, it just was the display. My commented example in this thread states that in every device your are running Zork I-III or any z-machine v3 compatible game it's actually hosting the interpreter and the game itself, from the Game Boy to an smartphone, a PC, an old PDA...
  - teddyh 7mo ago
    It wasn’t even the test’s original display, IIRC; they just re-used the housing and inserted a fancier display.
  - bananaboy 7mo ago
    They replaced both the display and the microcontroller with something like an Adafruir Trinket.
TZubiri 7mo ago
Coming up: playing doom on Ping-as-Storage
- aboardRat4 7mo ago
  It's ready, nothing to enjoy. ICMP packets can be arbitrary length, and there are plenty of tcp-over-icmp tunnels.
  - TZubiri 7mo ago
    Not what I meant, I meant icmp as storage, not as communication. There was this article a long time ago about using packets in transit as storage/memory, mischeivously for free. Turns out this is how early memory worked, i think it was called delay line memory, made of mercury, i think PDP and DEC era
FartyMcFarter 7mo ago
You were right to assume that in this case. DNS is not running doom here, it's just storing it.
- tombert 7mo ago
  That's fair. I guess "can it store DOOM?" is still an interesting question though.
  - antonvs 7mo ago
    Is it? DNS has an explicit mechanism for storing data.
    - tombert 7mo ago
      Ok well it was new to me ok!
- hrmtst93837 7mo ago
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by tombert 7mo ago

Gotta admit that it didn't occur to me that "can it run DOOM?" would stretch all the way to DNS. At this point I am wondering if people will somehow port DOOM over to the MONIAC.

bigwheels 7mo ago

Which is more ambitious, targeting the MONIAC platform or ENIAC? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ENIAC https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ENIAC https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phillips_Machine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phillips_Machine (MONIAC) I'd say both are looking increasingly doable.

sssilver 7mo ago

“Run” is doing a lot of heavy lifting at this point.

mistyvales 7mo ago
I remember the pregnancy test Doom. Wasn't it "running" on the display only?
- deathanatos 7mo ago
  Yes, I think it was, but that was also b/c, IIRC, the pregnancy tester had a CPU, too. A CPU can actually run things. DNS … cannot, and that's why the person upthread is criticizing the use of the word "run" here. DNS ran nothing.
  - anthk 7mo ago
    No it wasn't, it just was the display. My commented example in this thread states that in every device your are running Zork I-III or any z-machine v3 compatible game it's actually hosting the interpreter and the game itself, from the Game Boy to an smartphone, a PC, an old PDA...
- teddyh 7mo ago
  It wasn’t even the test’s original display, IIRC; they just re-used the housing and inserted a fancier display.
- bananaboy 7mo ago
  They replaced both the display and the microcontroller with something like an Adafruir Trinket.

TZubiri 7mo ago

Coming up: playing doom on Ping-as-Storage

aboardRat4 7mo ago
It's ready, nothing to enjoy. ICMP packets can be arbitrary length, and there are plenty of tcp-over-icmp tunnels.
- TZubiri 7mo ago
  Not what I meant, I meant icmp as storage, not as communication. There was this article a long time ago about using packets in transit as storage/memory, mischeivously for free. Turns out this is how early memory worked, i think it was called delay line memory, made of mercury, i think PDP and DEC era

FartyMcFarter 7mo ago

You were right to assume that in this case. DNS is not running doom here, it's just storing it.

tombert 7mo ago
That's fair. I guess "can it store DOOM?" is still an interesting question though.
- antonvs 7mo ago
  Is it? DNS has an explicit mechanism for storing data.
  - tombert 7mo ago
    Ok well it was new to me ok!
hrmtst93837 7mo ago
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