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Siclair Microvision (1977)

51 points by joebig 7mo ago

kgwgk 6mo ago
Sinclair (currently it says Siclair)
- deleted 6mo ago
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- avian 6mo ago
  I suspect the text comes directly from some poorly OCR'd article since it's full of such errors.
hbbio 6mo ago
SINCLAIR! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clive_Sinclair https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clive_Sinclair
rwmj 6mo ago
As you'd expect it was not a success in the end: > Supply exceeded demand, and 12,000 units were left unsold until they were sold off cheaply. This resulted in a £480,000 loss for Sinclair. Sir Clive Sinclair was certain that the TV1B model released in 1978 would be more successful, but sales were disappointing. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinclair_Radionics#Portable_televisions https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinclair_Radionics#Portable_te...) His later TV was more interesting in design but not any more successful: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TV80 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TV80 http://rk.nvg.ntnu.no/sinclair/televisions/tv80.htm http://rk.nvg.ntnu.no/sinclair/televisions/tv80.htm
- stevekemp 6mo ago
  The one I remember is the TV80: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUYlS3HcC8s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUYlS3HcC8s
  - davidwritesbugs 6mo ago
    I had one, hella cool. Had a funny flat battery I think? Regret not keeping it when it broke
ndsipa_pomu 6mo ago
SINCLAIR
lokinork 6mo ago
[dead]
whobre 6mo ago
Ironically , Clive Sinclair will be remembered for affordable home computers, but his real passion were small screens and electric vehicles. A true visionary - he was a couple of decades too early. RIP Sir Clive…
- MomsAVoxell 6mo ago
  He was a crazy, inspired individual that is for sure. The Elon Musk of his time, replete with relevant temperament. Sure is interesting to wonder where todays’ 21st Century Clive is, and what they’re up to. My guess is, somewhere way on the edge of the lunatic fringe, doing wild and kooky stuff.. and I think if I look close enough at the hardware hacking community today, I could probably spot a hundred Clives’ pretty easily.
  - TheOtherHobbes 6mo ago
    More of a UK Steve Jobs - similar marketing flair, filtered through British austerity. He kept the same pitch throughout his career - make consumer goods as small and cheap as possible, wrap them in state of the art industrial design (superficially futuristic and memorable, but also as cheap as possible), and market them aggressively. He did ok with his calculators, surfed a trend with his computers and (accidentally IMO) created a national ecosystem, but his other attempts were less successful. He seemed to enjoy miniaturised downscale engineering for the sake of it, whether or not there was a market there.
    - jhbadger 6mo ago
      He did have his showman side certainly -- but I'd argue that Alan Sugar of Amstrad was more the UK Steve Jobs because Clive Sinclair really did have deep technological knowledge himself (even though he obviously also had a staff of talented engineers like Richard Altwasser who rarely got their due in the public eye)
sgbeal 6mo ago
> The price of the black and white set has been fixed at £175 plus VAT. Sinclair says there is no prospect of a reduction. 'Firstly because it is such a complicated product and, secondly, we have a monopoly'. At least he's honest about it.
- adonovan 6mo ago
  It's not an illegal monopoly to be the sole entity capable of a technique. The problems come from manipulating the market to prevent competition.
  - sgbeal 6mo ago
    There was no implying that it was illegal, only that it was balsy (or perhaps foolish) of him to openly declare it. It's not a great PR move, in that the word tends to have a negative connotation for consumers.
MomsAVoxell 6mo ago
I have a Sony TV8-301 in my retro collection, just waiting for me to build it a suitable power supply, give it a service, and wire it up to be used as a terminal for something powerful. https://www.radiomuseum.org/r/sony_8_301_w8_301.html https://www.radiomuseum.org/r/sony_8_301_w8_301.html The aesthetic of these old designs is really appealing. If you’re not familiar with the TV8-301, its been used as a prop in countless games and sci-fi movies .. and hasn’t the Sinclair Microvision also shown up in films in places? I want to say Bladerunner or Alien, but I’m pretty sure they just copied the aesthetic… Perhaps Space 1999 or The Tomorrow People or something like that? In any case, its somewhat amusing to recollect just how fantastic it seemed, way back then, to have a portable television/video device to watch things on .. I used to lust after the toys in the Sinclair ads back in the day, it was a precursor to computing fever that hit me - and a lot of the rest of the world - on the cusp of the 80’s .. and it seems proper to notice that Sinclairs’ desire to give everyone the things that were being dreamed up by sci-fi authors seems to have been somewhat prescient. We all have a TV in our pockets now, there’s no escaping it .. and what a world it has become, with literally everyone on the planet capable of starting their own channels, if they want to ..
- joebig 6mo ago
  I need some help if you happen know your way around flybacks? I have a grime encrusted flyback transformer harvested from a crt set which I would like to hack around with, iff I had some inkling of the internal wiring of the coils, rectifiers etc. All it says is "FOK14A001 REV.0 ANYON T11520VO" and web searches refuse to surface an exact schematic; even though a lot of general information is available. But piecing together a schematic for this specific model is proving a drag from these nebulous floaters.
- MichaelRo 6mo ago
  Kids today probably won't get what's the big idea with "just" some TV, no DVD playing capability, no computer games. But in the early 90s I would have sold a kidney for one of these, on a boring 8 hour train trip, they would have been the ultimate gadget. Not just for entertainment purposes, watching TV, but also bragging rights since noone even dreamt of having one of these in that time period and that place (Eastern Europe). At least I didn't see or knew anyone that had such a thing.
samesimilar 6mo ago
[sic]
matthewsinclair 6mo ago
“Siclair” or “Sinclair”?

51 points by joebig 7mo ago

kgwgk 6mo ago

Sinclair (currently it says Siclair)

deleted 6mo ago
[deleted]
avian 6mo ago
I suspect the text comes directly from some poorly OCR'd article since it's full of such errors.

hbbio 6mo ago

SINCLAIR! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clive_Sinclair https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clive_Sinclair

rwmj 6mo ago

As you'd expect it was not a success in the end: > Supply exceeded demand, and 12,000 units were left unsold until they were sold off cheaply. This resulted in a £480,000 loss for Sinclair. Sir Clive Sinclair was certain that the TV1B model released in 1978 would be more successful, but sales were disappointing. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinclair_Radionics#Portable_televisions https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinclair_Radionics#Portable_te...) His later TV was more interesting in design but not any more successful: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TV80 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TV80 http://rk.nvg.ntnu.no/sinclair/televisions/tv80.htm http://rk.nvg.ntnu.no/sinclair/televisions/tv80.htm

stevekemp 6mo ago
The one I remember is the TV80: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUYlS3HcC8s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUYlS3HcC8s
- davidwritesbugs 6mo ago
  I had one, hella cool. Had a funny flat battery I think? Regret not keeping it when it broke

ndsipa_pomu 6mo ago

SINCLAIR

lokinork 6mo ago

[dead]

whobre 6mo ago

Ironically , Clive Sinclair will be remembered for affordable home computers, but his real passion were small screens and electric vehicles. A true visionary - he was a couple of decades too early. RIP Sir Clive…

MomsAVoxell 6mo ago
He was a crazy, inspired individual that is for sure. The Elon Musk of his time, replete with relevant temperament. Sure is interesting to wonder where todays’ 21st Century Clive is, and what they’re up to. My guess is, somewhere way on the edge of the lunatic fringe, doing wild and kooky stuff.. and I think if I look close enough at the hardware hacking community today, I could probably spot a hundred Clives’ pretty easily.
- TheOtherHobbes 6mo ago
  More of a UK Steve Jobs - similar marketing flair, filtered through British austerity. He kept the same pitch throughout his career - make consumer goods as small and cheap as possible, wrap them in state of the art industrial design (superficially futuristic and memorable, but also as cheap as possible), and market them aggressively. He did ok with his calculators, surfed a trend with his computers and (accidentally IMO) created a national ecosystem, but his other attempts were less successful. He seemed to enjoy miniaturised downscale engineering for the sake of it, whether or not there was a market there.
  - jhbadger 6mo ago
    He did have his showman side certainly -- but I'd argue that Alan Sugar of Amstrad was more the UK Steve Jobs because Clive Sinclair really did have deep technological knowledge himself (even though he obviously also had a staff of talented engineers like Richard Altwasser who rarely got their due in the public eye)

sgbeal 6mo ago

> The price of the black and white set has been fixed at £175 plus VAT. Sinclair says there is no prospect of a reduction. 'Firstly because it is such a complicated product and, secondly, we have a monopoly'. At least he's honest about it.

adonovan 6mo ago
It's not an illegal monopoly to be the sole entity capable of a technique. The problems come from manipulating the market to prevent competition.
- sgbeal 6mo ago
  There was no implying that it was illegal, only that it was balsy (or perhaps foolish) of him to openly declare it. It's not a great PR move, in that the word tends to have a negative connotation for consumers.

MomsAVoxell 6mo ago

I have a Sony TV8-301 in my retro collection, just waiting for me to build it a suitable power supply, give it a service, and wire it up to be used as a terminal for something powerful. https://www.radiomuseum.org/r/sony_8_301_w8_301.html https://www.radiomuseum.org/r/sony_8_301_w8_301.html The aesthetic of these old designs is really appealing. If you’re not familiar with the TV8-301, its been used as a prop in countless games and sci-fi movies .. and hasn’t the Sinclair Microvision also shown up in films in places? I want to say Bladerunner or Alien, but I’m pretty sure they just copied the aesthetic… Perhaps Space 1999 or The Tomorrow People or something like that? In any case, its somewhat amusing to recollect just how fantastic it seemed, way back then, to have a portable television/video device to watch things on .. I used to lust after the toys in the Sinclair ads back in the day, it was a precursor to computing fever that hit me - and a lot of the rest of the world - on the cusp of the 80’s .. and it seems proper to notice that Sinclairs’ desire to give everyone the things that were being dreamed up by sci-fi authors seems to have been somewhat prescient. We all have a TV in our pockets now, there’s no escaping it .. and what a world it has become, with literally everyone on the planet capable of starting their own channels, if they want to ..

joebig 6mo ago
I need some help if you happen know your way around flybacks? I have a grime encrusted flyback transformer harvested from a crt set which I would like to hack around with, iff I had some inkling of the internal wiring of the coils, rectifiers etc. All it says is "FOK14A001 REV.0 ANYON T11520VO" and web searches refuse to surface an exact schematic; even though a lot of general information is available. But piecing together a schematic for this specific model is proving a drag from these nebulous floaters.
MichaelRo 6mo ago
Kids today probably won't get what's the big idea with "just" some TV, no DVD playing capability, no computer games. But in the early 90s I would have sold a kidney for one of these, on a boring 8 hour train trip, they would have been the ultimate gadget. Not just for entertainment purposes, watching TV, but also bragging rights since noone even dreamt of having one of these in that time period and that place (Eastern Europe). At least I didn't see or knew anyone that had such a thing.

samesimilar 6mo ago

[sic]

matthewsinclair 6mo ago

“Siclair” or “Sinclair”?