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It just works. One language. Many platforms. Incredible performance. With a simple tooling. No ugly script. Everything is naturally integrated.

skydhash 6mo ago
Isn’t that Go?
- yunwal 6mo ago
  Go and “simple tooling” don’t really belong in the same sentence. Powerful tooling, sure, but simple?
  - g947o 6mo ago
    Would be helpful if you elaborate which part is not simple. Coming from C++ and JavaScript, there aren't many languages that can claim to have "simpler" tooling than Go.
    - shepherdjerred 6mo ago
      The tools aren’t bad any more, but you do need a few liners to write safe code. But that’s the case for most languages
    - yunwal 6mo ago
      Things that are not simple about go tooling - Comments as directives[0]. Nobody finds this intuitive. I've never met anyone that saw what directives were doing and thought to change a comment. - Comments as commands for the compiler[1] - The state of go linting[2]. There are 30 different formatting tools that all frequently conflict with each other. It got so complicated that one project exists to manage installations of all the other ones (golangci-lint). Only difficulty is that most IDEs use gofmt and if your golangci-lint uses a different gofmt version than your IDE, you end up getting different formatting when you save vs. when you commit. This is only a problem because golangci-lint can't be installed using the go toolchain[3], so you can't just have dependency resolution solve this for you. I can go on [0] - https://groups.google.com/g/golang-dev/c/r4rdPdsH1Fg/m/yjOOzqIqNPMJ https://groups.google.com/g/golang-dev/c/r4rdPdsH1Fg/m/yjOOz... [1] - https://essentials-of-go-programming.readthedocs.io/tooling.html#conditional-compilation https://essentials-of-go-programming.readthedocs.io/tooling.... [2] - https://go.dev/wiki/CodeTools https://go.dev/wiki/CodeTools [3] - https://github.com/golangci/golangci-lint/issues/1657 https://github.com/golangci/golangci-lint/issues/1657
wiseowise 6mo ago
> No ugly script What’s that supposed to mean?
foltik 6mo ago
The typical Apple sales pitch. Forgive me for assuming it’s only surface level.

skydhash 6mo ago

Isn’t that Go?

yunwal 6mo ago
Go and “simple tooling” don’t really belong in the same sentence. Powerful tooling, sure, but simple?
- g947o 6mo ago
  Would be helpful if you elaborate which part is not simple. Coming from C++ and JavaScript, there aren't many languages that can claim to have "simpler" tooling than Go.
  - shepherdjerred 6mo ago
    The tools aren’t bad any more, but you do need a few liners to write safe code. But that’s the case for most languages
  - yunwal 6mo ago
    Things that are not simple about go tooling - Comments as directives[0]. Nobody finds this intuitive. I've never met anyone that saw what directives were doing and thought to change a comment. - Comments as commands for the compiler[1] - The state of go linting[2]. There are 30 different formatting tools that all frequently conflict with each other. It got so complicated that one project exists to manage installations of all the other ones (golangci-lint). Only difficulty is that most IDEs use gofmt and if your golangci-lint uses a different gofmt version than your IDE, you end up getting different formatting when you save vs. when you commit. This is only a problem because golangci-lint can't be installed using the go toolchain[3], so you can't just have dependency resolution solve this for you. I can go on [0] - https://groups.google.com/g/golang-dev/c/r4rdPdsH1Fg/m/yjOOzqIqNPMJ https://groups.google.com/g/golang-dev/c/r4rdPdsH1Fg/m/yjOOz... [1] - https://essentials-of-go-programming.readthedocs.io/tooling.html#conditional-compilation https://essentials-of-go-programming.readthedocs.io/tooling.... [2] - https://go.dev/wiki/CodeTools https://go.dev/wiki/CodeTools [3] - https://github.com/golangci/golangci-lint/issues/1657 https://github.com/golangci/golangci-lint/issues/1657

wiseowise 6mo ago

> No ugly script What’s that supposed to mean?

foltik 6mo ago

The typical Apple sales pitch. Forgive me for assuming it’s only surface level.