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I am not sure the author realizes that Wikimedia fundraising is indeed controversial, given that we know how much money they already have. Same applies to Mozi

by lynx97 7mo ago

I am not sure the author realizes that Wikimedia fundraising is indeed controversial, given that we know how much money they already have. Same applies to Mozilla. But maybe they have their own bubble and are focused on negative reactions to recent announcements?

captn3m0 7mo ago
Not Mozilla’s but Thunderbird’s appeals were seen as mostly positive (and independent of Mozilla).
j16sdiz 7mo ago
> Same applies to Mozilla. Not Thunderbird. It is just a poor abandoned child. Mozilla, maybe.
- fluoridation 7mo ago
  What ongoing work does an email client need, though, besides fixing bugs and very occasionally adding new login protocols?
  - AlienRobot 7mo ago
    Their RSS could use some improvements, but the same could be said about all of them.
  - asdewqqwer 7mo ago
    If you ever try to write a email client, you will immediately realize how difficult, if not impossible, to fix all the bugs for a email client. It is a multi-different-protocol-version-async-client-handling-same-database-with-thousands-of-race-condition backwards compatibility nightmare. Writing a email client with support of just up-to-date protocols and assume it is the single client that will operate that account is trivial, write one that covers all corner cases is a totally different story.
    - fluoridation 7mo ago
      I don't know about the rest, but surely the race conditions are the fault of whoever designed the concurrency part. An email client does not inherently have race conditions.
      - asdewqqwer 7mo ago
        > assume it is the single client that will operate that account You are still making wild assumption without actually thinking about what means to writing an email client.
        fluoridation 7mo ago
        OK? Sure would be nice to hear why having a second email client talk to the remote server introduces race conditions on the local client (EDIT: that is, race conditions that are the local client's responsibility).
  - ForHackernews 7mo ago
    Adding a mobile version, MS Exchange integration, supporting OAuth2 login, refreshing the UI periodically because otherwise everyone whines about how "dated" it looks.
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by lynx97 7mo ago

captn3m0 7mo ago

Not Mozilla’s but Thunderbird’s appeals were seen as mostly positive (and independent of Mozilla).

j16sdiz 7mo ago

> Same applies to Mozilla. Not Thunderbird. It is just a poor abandoned child. Mozilla, maybe.

fluoridation 7mo ago
What ongoing work does an email client need, though, besides fixing bugs and very occasionally adding new login protocols?
- AlienRobot 7mo ago
  Their RSS could use some improvements, but the same could be said about all of them.
- asdewqqwer 7mo ago
  If you ever try to write a email client, you will immediately realize how difficult, if not impossible, to fix all the bugs for a email client. It is a multi-different-protocol-version-async-client-handling-same-database-with-thousands-of-race-condition backwards compatibility nightmare. Writing a email client with support of just up-to-date protocols and assume it is the single client that will operate that account is trivial, write one that covers all corner cases is a totally different story.
  - fluoridation 7mo ago
    I don't know about the rest, but surely the race conditions are the fault of whoever designed the concurrency part. An email client does not inherently have race conditions.
    - asdewqqwer 7mo ago
      > assume it is the single client that will operate that account You are still making wild assumption without actually thinking about what means to writing an email client.
      - fluoridation 7mo ago
        OK? Sure would be nice to hear why having a second email client talk to the remote server introduces race conditions on the local client (EDIT: that is, race conditions that are the local client's responsibility).
- ForHackernews 7mo ago
  Adding a mobile version, MS Exchange integration, supporting OAuth2 login, refreshing the UI periodically because otherwise everyone whines about how "dated" it looks.

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