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I've been a (n)vim user for 20+ years now, but I hate vi-mode in the shell. However if I feel that I need to do a complex command, I just do ctrl-x+e to open up

I've been a (n)vim user for 20+ years now, but I hate vi-mode in the shell. However if I feel that I need to do a complex command, I just do ctrl-x+e to open up in neovim (with EDITOR=nvim set). I find it a good middle ground.

sudonem 7mo ago
Agree. I WANT to love it - and if I was only ever working on one, or a small number of systems that I was the only one working on I’d probably do it. I’m ALL about customizing my environment. However ssh into various servers through the day (some of which are totally ephemeral), and having to code switch my brain back and forth between vim mode and emacs mode in the shell would just slow me down and be infuriating each time I connect to a new box.
xtiansimon 7mo ago
Huh. I don’t use vi-mode for more than jumping to the beginning or end of a line, which I like a lot.
- irishcoffee 7mo ago
  You mean, like the “home” and “end” buttons?
  - deleted 7mo ago
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  - wholinator2 7mo ago
    Yeah but those are so far away, i have to hunt for them every time
- wbrd 7mo ago
  I'm a vim user but in the shell I use Ctrl-a and Ctrl-e to get to the beginning and end. If I need more editing I use Ctrl-x Ctrl-e to hop into vim.
- void-star 7mo ago
  It really shines for navigating history. <esc>/ searches history the same way as the editor search function
- School-Cotton 7mo ago
  C-a and C-e are your friend.
busfahrer 7mo ago
I'm the same and in my opinion this is the best of both worlds. Taking the time to learn some of the regular (emacs-style) shortcuts is one of the best investments I've ever done. Even just CTRL+Y and the likes. edit: And of course, CTRL+R, the best time saver of all
void-star 7mo ago
It’s strange. I have heard this from lots of others too. I think I am an anomaly here. I can’t live without shell vi mode
- fp64 7mo ago
  You're not alone, I heavily rely on vi mode and often struggle if I'm on someone else's machine and can't use it. I always wonder how you're supposed to work without it but I never dare to ask
  - Linux-Fan 7mo ago
    `set -o vi` is quickly typed in anger...
- lenkite 7mo ago
  Same - shell vi mode is critical for intensive terminal sessions.
- dbacar 7mo ago
  it is an additional burden to switch to shell vi mode, it is not the standard. Maybe you can put it in all of yout bashrc files but you will probably hear some swearing from the people logging to your machines :).
helterskelter 7mo ago
I used to hate it because I'd sometimes change modes without realizing it, but I began to appreciate it a lot more when I added a mode indicator -- a red 'N' on the rightmost side of the input line.
looshch 7mo ago
agreed, i use neovim as a terminal multiplexer because vi-mode is really bad. I wrote a blog post on how i solved the issue for myself https://loosh.ch/blog/neovidenal https://loosh.ch/blog/neovidenal

sudonem 7mo ago

Agree. I WANT to love it - and if I was only ever working on one, or a small number of systems that I was the only one working on I’d probably do it. I’m ALL about customizing my environment. However ssh into various servers through the day (some of which are totally ephemeral), and having to code switch my brain back and forth between vim mode and emacs mode in the shell would just slow me down and be infuriating each time I connect to a new box.

xtiansimon 7mo ago

Huh. I don’t use vi-mode for more than jumping to the beginning or end of a line, which I like a lot.

irishcoffee 7mo ago
You mean, like the “home” and “end” buttons?
- deleted 7mo ago
  [deleted]
- wholinator2 7mo ago
  Yeah but those are so far away, i have to hunt for them every time
wbrd 7mo ago
I'm a vim user but in the shell I use Ctrl-a and Ctrl-e to get to the beginning and end. If I need more editing I use Ctrl-x Ctrl-e to hop into vim.
void-star 7mo ago
It really shines for navigating history. <esc>/ searches history the same way as the editor search function
School-Cotton 7mo ago
C-a and C-e are your friend.

busfahrer 7mo ago

I'm the same and in my opinion this is the best of both worlds. Taking the time to learn some of the regular (emacs-style) shortcuts is one of the best investments I've ever done. Even just CTRL+Y and the likes. edit: And of course, CTRL+R, the best time saver of all

void-star 7mo ago

It’s strange. I have heard this from lots of others too. I think I am an anomaly here. I can’t live without shell vi mode

fp64 7mo ago
You're not alone, I heavily rely on vi mode and often struggle if I'm on someone else's machine and can't use it. I always wonder how you're supposed to work without it but I never dare to ask
- Linux-Fan 7mo ago
  `set -o vi` is quickly typed in anger...
lenkite 7mo ago
Same - shell vi mode is critical for intensive terminal sessions.
dbacar 7mo ago
it is an additional burden to switch to shell vi mode, it is not the standard. Maybe you can put it in all of yout bashrc files but you will probably hear some swearing from the people logging to your machines :).

helterskelter 7mo ago

I used to hate it because I'd sometimes change modes without realizing it, but I began to appreciate it a lot more when I added a mode indicator -- a red 'N' on the rightmost side of the input line.

looshch 7mo ago

agreed, i use neovim as a terminal multiplexer because vi-mode is really bad. I wrote a blog post on how i solved the issue for myself https://loosh.ch/blog/neovidenal https://loosh.ch/blog/neovidenal