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I just open, agent in tui, and ask it to do what I want and make a plan, i read the plan edit it and run it. Simple, no need to learn any commandline these day

I just open, agent in tui, and ask it to do what I want and make a plan, i read the plan edit it and run it. Simple, no need to learn any commandline these days. I used to use arch and all, and managed many big projects. I find little value in learning new tools anymore, just feed it docs and it generated working plan most of the time Now I've moved to coding in Haskell, which i find suits me better than wasting my time with cli and exploring what options all these cli tools have.

worksonmine 7mo ago
What is it like to be this proud of not learning the tools you use? Do you really think several paragraphs to an agent that may or may not be correct is the "easy" way compared to just checking the manual for the flag you want? I will never understand people like you.
- faangguyindia 7mo ago
  Tools are means to end. They don't matter much to me.
  - bigstrat2003 7mo ago
    That's fine to a point. But if you don't learn your tools, you will have rendered yourself unable to catch when the LLM gets things wrong (and it will get things wrong because it doesn't understand anything it touches). That, in turn, will mean that you're going to struggle to reach your desired ends but won't have the understanding to figure out what's wrong. "Tools are just a means to an end" means you need to not get attached to a tool if it's not doing the job. It doesn't mean you don't need to understand your tools.
chriswarbo 7mo ago
I'm confused; how is writing a shell command (using shortcuts like those in the article!) "wasting time", but describing what you want to an LLM, having it make a plan, reading the plan, editing it, and running it is somehow not a waste of time? You also mention there being "little value", when your proposed approach costs literal money in form of API/token usage (when using hosted models). > Now I've moved to coding in Haskell You might like https://hackage.haskell.org/package/turtle https://hackage.haskell.org/package/turtle or http://nellardo.com/lang/haskell/hash/ http://nellardo.com/lang/haskell/hash/
ogghostjelly 7mo ago
There is no value gained if you never learn.

worksonmine 7mo ago

What is it like to be this proud of not learning the tools you use? Do you really think several paragraphs to an agent that may or may not be correct is the "easy" way compared to just checking the manual for the flag you want? I will never understand people like you.

faangguyindia 7mo ago
Tools are means to end. They don't matter much to me.
- bigstrat2003 7mo ago
  That's fine to a point. But if you don't learn your tools, you will have rendered yourself unable to catch when the LLM gets things wrong (and it will get things wrong because it doesn't understand anything it touches). That, in turn, will mean that you're going to struggle to reach your desired ends but won't have the understanding to figure out what's wrong. "Tools are just a means to an end" means you need to not get attached to a tool if it's not doing the job. It doesn't mean you don't need to understand your tools.

chriswarbo 7mo ago

I'm confused; how is writing a shell command (using shortcuts like those in the article!) "wasting time", but describing what you want to an LLM, having it make a plan, reading the plan, editing it, and running it is somehow not a waste of time? You also mention there being "little value", when your proposed approach costs literal money in form of API/token usage (when using hosted models). > Now I've moved to coding in Haskell You might like https://hackage.haskell.org/package/turtle https://hackage.haskell.org/package/turtle or http://nellardo.com/lang/haskell/hash/ http://nellardo.com/lang/haskell/hash/

ogghostjelly 7mo ago

There is no value gained if you never learn.