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> The “Works (Almost) Everywhere” Club > The Backspace Replacements Also known as "emacs editing mode". Funnily enough, what POSIX mandates is the support for

> The “Works (Almost) Everywhere” Club > The Backspace Replacements Also known as "emacs editing mode". Funnily enough, what POSIX mandates is the support for "vi editing mode" which, to my knowledge, almost nobody ever uses. But it's there in most shells, and you can enable it with "set -o vi" in e.g. bash.

ZeroGravitas 7mo ago
Vi mode is also available in Claude code and gemini-cli to give some recent examples, and a bunch of other places you might not expect it, as well the more obvious places where code is written. Once you get used to it, it is painful to go back.
- mr_mitm 7mo ago
  My biggest complaint about the fish shell is the lack of true vi mode. They attempt to emulate it and it works to some degree, but it's no comparison to readline's implementation.
  - maleldil 7mo ago
    You can always use Alt-E to open the command line in $EDITOR if you need more powerful commands. I find it better to use readline for small changes and jumping to vim for bigger ones.
  - School-Cotton 7mo ago
    Have you tried a recent version? An issue I opened about this years ago was finally closed, they claim it’s fixed now. I haven’t tried the purported fix, though.
    - mr_mitm 7mo ago
      Yes. It has improved, but it's still not there, and probably never will be. See my reply to your sibling comment.
  - dunb 7mo ago
    What is it lacking in your eyes that makes it not true? I find fish’s vi mode more ergonomically complete for things like editing multi-line commands
    - mr_mitm 7mo ago
      Just pressing `xp` to swap two characters does not work in fish. Combining deletion with a movement also does not work (e.g. `d3w` to delete three words).
      - krobelus 7mo ago
        these have been fixed as of 4.4.0
        mr_mitm 7mo ago
        Awesome! That released hasn't landed yet in my distro's repos. Thanks a lot! Fish is a great product.
worksonmine 7mo ago
And if you set `set editing-mode vi` in ~/.inputrc (readline configuration) you'll have it in even more places.

ZeroGravitas 7mo ago

Vi mode is also available in Claude code and gemini-cli to give some recent examples, and a bunch of other places you might not expect it, as well the more obvious places where code is written. Once you get used to it, it is painful to go back.

mr_mitm 7mo ago
My biggest complaint about the fish shell is the lack of true vi mode. They attempt to emulate it and it works to some degree, but it's no comparison to readline's implementation.
- maleldil 7mo ago
  You can always use Alt-E to open the command line in $EDITOR if you need more powerful commands. I find it better to use readline for small changes and jumping to vim for bigger ones.
- School-Cotton 7mo ago
  Have you tried a recent version? An issue I opened about this years ago was finally closed, they claim it’s fixed now. I haven’t tried the purported fix, though.
  - mr_mitm 7mo ago
    Yes. It has improved, but it's still not there, and probably never will be. See my reply to your sibling comment.
- dunb 7mo ago
  What is it lacking in your eyes that makes it not true? I find fish’s vi mode more ergonomically complete for things like editing multi-line commands
  - mr_mitm 7mo ago
    Just pressing `xp` to swap two characters does not work in fish. Combining deletion with a movement also does not work (e.g. `d3w` to delete three words).
    - krobelus 7mo ago
      these have been fixed as of 4.4.0
      - mr_mitm 7mo ago
        Awesome! That released hasn't landed yet in my distro's repos. Thanks a lot! Fish is a great product.

worksonmine 7mo ago

And if you set `set editing-mode vi` in ~/.inputrc (readline configuration) you'll have it in even more places.