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RISC OS for Raspberry Pi
- cturner 14y agoWhat would it take to get Sibelius running on this? Is it possible to get binaries of this still?
- meaty 14y agoThat would require some serious work I imagine. Sibelius was 26-bit ARM (the status register was mixed with the program counter if I remember). It would require some extensive rework to do anything useful on later fully 32-bit addressed ARM processors.
- bdfh42 14y agoThis is all very interesting from a nostalgia viewpoint (the Open VMS cluster hit that spot for me ;)) but have we seen much in the way of cutting edge OS work on this device? The Pi gives us a great experimental platform to explore new possibilities does it not?
- saw-lau 14y agoMy own point of view, given its supposed background as an educational tool, is that this should have been on the device from Day One, and work should never had been started on it supported Linux. The immediacy of an insta-booting machine with BASIC is one of the things that cemented my interest in computers and programming as a ten year old. I may, of course, just be being nostalgic here...
- bdfh42 14y agoI know what you mean - for a programming learning device then a near instant boot into a programming language style run time (and wow Basic was great for that - I cut my teeth on a DEC PDP 11-70 running RSTSE and the terminal started with the Basic "Ready" prompt) is just about perfect. Coherent, succinct and ready to go. But there are other things to be learned as well - hence my interest at the OS level.
- wiradikusuma 14y agobut some other people are looking forward to use pi for more 'serious' applications. luckily a quick google revealed that risc os supports lua and python, although jvm would be nice.
- meaty 14y agoI'd argue, having used it extensively in the 80's and 90's, that the BASIC variant shipped with RISC OS it is very serious. It's a different league to your usual BASIC variants and scales up very well to large applications and even down to system programming. It's completely unique and people could learn a lot from how little time it takes to knock out something useful, fast and powerful in it.
- wiradikusuma 14y agobut it's missing "hip" language constructs like closure or functional approach, unless there's something like CoffeeScript for basic
- meaty 14y agoYes there's nothing hip about it at all. But for the best part of 30 years of BBC BASIC, I've not heard a single complaint about that fact.
- almalki 14y agoThe war
- almalki 14y agoThe war
- ColinWright 14y agoFWIW, we've developed and supplied safety-critical, soft-real-time applications in BBC BASIC. It was a genuinely serious language. I also developed symbolic execution and partial verification systems for it, and that helped confirm that our systems were appropriate for the context in which they were used.
- 89a 14y agoRISC OS was so awesome. Windows looked like a dinosaur compared to this at the time
- mavhc 14y agoIt's still a dinosaur in functional gui features. Separation of document window and app. Resize, move, scroll, click and type in windows without bringing them to the front of the stack. A send to back of stack button. Drag and drop load and save. Menus you can select and item and keep the menu open.
- Zolomon 14y agoI wonder what this means for the demo scene - I bet some awesome demos can come out from this.
- meaty 14y agoI don't know why anyone downvoted this. Some of the demos on the old archimedes platform were awesome.
- ColinWright 14y agoFWIW, I have running RISC OS machines that I still use occasionally for the few applications that had, and have, no peer. I'll be watching closely to see if any of my older work will be of use to the community.
- qznc 14y agoWhat applications have no peer?
- topbanana 14y agoNapster?
- ColinWright 14y ago!Draw, for one. I have yet to find an application that lets me draw things as quickly and cleanly as that. Anything else that has the same capabilities is a pig to use in terms of menus, actions, clicks, etc. Other packages that offer more are often harder to drive and too fussy, and anything that offers less is usually not good enough for what I want. !Draw hits the sweet spot, for me, of capability and usability.
- fidotron 14y agoDid you ever try DrawPlus or ArtWorks? Obviously ArtWorks, with significant UI changes, morphed into Xara, but I think DrawPlus got ported to Windows in some form too.
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- ColinWright 14y agoFrom what I can see it only runs on Macs, which I don't use, and it costs money, which !Draw doesn't. I could be wrong, and don't have time to check it out in details now because,as is so often the case, I'm on the road. I've made a note. Edit: here we are: Sketch is available on the Mac App Store for just $49. Sketch requires a 64-bit Mac with 10.6 Snow Leopard or higher. Doesn't work for me.
- gpvos 14y agoLooks like I need to get myself a proper (no-scrollwheel) three-button mouse again. :)