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As a philosophical zombie myself[0], I'm well aware of how hard it is to define and test consciousness. That's why I tried to clarify what I meant with: desire

As a philosophical zombie myself[0], I'm well aware of how hard it is to define and test consciousness. That's why I tried to clarify what I meant with: desire for self-preservation and intrinsic motivation. Which LLMs clearly lack, don't you agree? Also, I'm not saying that those things couldn't be programmed in, just that so far, they don't seem necessary. [0] I lack a conscious experience and qualia

petesergeant 7mo ago
> desire for self-preservation and intrinsic motivation I’d be curious about how you’re showing they lack either of those
- olalonde 7mo ago
  They don't try to prevent you from deleting them and they don't output anything unless prompted.
  - samusiam 7mo ago
    "they don't output anything unless prompted" Unprompted they're not unlike a human sleeping or in a coma. Those states don't preclude consciousness in other states.
    - olalonde 7mo ago
      That's besides the point though.
energy123 7mo ago
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Fraterkes 7mo ago
How can you tell that you lack conscious experience and qualia?
- womble2 7mo ago
  They assert that they dont have them, in the same way you (presumably) assert that you do have them. Neither have any further evidence and one is not a prioi more likely than the other.
  - olalonde 7mo ago
    Yep, this basically. I tend to get along well with solipsists.