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I don't quite follow, can you explain a little bit about how drone waves allow for defense of large areas? I can see how they help in offensive attacks, but as

I don't quite follow, can you explain a little bit about how drone waves allow for defense of large areas? I can see how they help in offensive attacks, but as far as I can tell they don't seem to have helped defend Iran from the US and Israel; they're just helping Iran lash out after taking a beating. (Not trying to be smarmy, just genuinely curious.)

epistasis 7mo ago
well two things: 1) Iran doesn't have much in terms of drones, but they are not using them nearly as much as even Russia, much less Ukraine. Look at US bases in the area: there's been a few flyovers by drones but no serious attacks, but US bases haven't even put up nets or anything to protect resources, they still have radar and high value targets just sitting out in the open unattacked. 2) Iran still hasn't lost any territory, that's the defense I'm talking about. The US and Israel can expend all their bombs, but that doesn't bring down Iran's government or lose them any land. At most it loses them economic power. So I don't think Iran demonstrates much at all about the modern use of drones.
- epistasis 7mo ago
  > US bases haven't even put up nets or anything to protect resources, they still have radar and high value targets just sitting out in the open unattacked New attack today, with ~10 casualties, and a freaking E-3 AWACS taken out, which is the very definition of high value target sitting out in the open being vulnerable https://www.airandspaceforces.com/us-forces-saudi-arabia-iran-attack/ https://www.airandspaceforces.com/us-forces-saudi-arabia-ira... We dont know the full story, but it's hard to imagine any excuse for losing an AWACS that isn't unbearably embarrassing. It is also surprising that it took so long for Iran to attack like this; maybe they needed to be resulted by Russia with drones.

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I don't quite follow, can you explain a little bit about how drone waves allow for defense of large areas? I can see how they help in offensive attacks, but as

by nozzlegear 7mo ago

epistasis 7mo ago
well two things: 1) Iran doesn't have much in terms of drones, but they are not using them nearly as much as even Russia, much less Ukraine. Look at US bases in the area: there's been a few flyovers by drones but no serious attacks, but US bases haven't even put up nets or anything to protect resources, they still have radar and high value targets just sitting out in the open unattacked. 2) Iran still hasn't lost any territory, that's the defense I'm talking about. The US and Israel can expend all their bombs, but that doesn't bring down Iran's government or lose them any land. At most it loses them economic power. So I don't think Iran demonstrates much at all about the modern use of drones.
- epistasis 7mo ago
  > US bases haven't even put up nets or anything to protect resources, they still have radar and high value targets just sitting out in the open unattacked New attack today, with ~10 casualties, and a freaking E-3 AWACS taken out, which is the very definition of high value target sitting out in the open being vulnerable https://www.airandspaceforces.com/us-forces-saudi-arabia-iran-attack/ https://www.airandspaceforces.com/us-forces-saudi-arabia-ira... We dont know the full story, but it's hard to imagine any excuse for losing an AWACS that isn't unbearably embarrassing. It is also surprising that it took so long for Iran to attack like this; maybe they needed to be resulted by Russia with drones.