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> plenty of analysis warning of the risks that have now become reality You can also easily find analysis warning of the opposite: the risks of not invading Ira

> plenty of analysis warning of the risks that have now become reality You can also easily find analysis warning of the opposite: the risks of not invading Iran. See Nazi Germany and WW2 for an example what happens when you fail to contain a belligerently rogue country.

PickledHotdog 7mo ago
Iran was "contained" under Obama's deal with them....that Trump tore up....and when he was in the middle of negotiating a new one he attacked Iran who were in good faith negotiations. The rogue nation here is the US.
- theonething 7mo ago
  > Iran was "contained" under Obama's deal with them Oh, you mean the JCPOA that Iran violated (before it was rejected by Trump) by failing to disclose storage of undeclared nuclear material at secret sites in Turquzabad between 2009 and 2018 and at Lavisan-Shian, Varamin and Marivan starting in 2003 to early 2000s? UN watchdog declares Iran in breach of nuclear non-proliferation duties: https://www.iranintl.com/en/202506123029 https://www.iranintl.com/en/202506123029 The JCPOA, had weak stipulations on nuclear constraints that sunsetted after 15 years. The deal did not address Iran's missile program, human rights record or support for proxy terrorist groups like Hezbollah and Hamas. > Iran was in good faith negotiation Iran has historically made promises, broken them and lied about it. "The best time for Iran to have given up the weapons pursuit was after the 2003 embarrassment of being caught clearly lying about its nuclear program, but it did not. Over the years, the IAEA Board of Governors issued several warnings to the UN Security Council about the “possible military dimensions” of Iran’s nuclear program" https://thebulletin.org/2025/07/time-for-iran-to-make-a-no-enrichment-nuclear-deal/ https://thebulletin.org/2025/07/time-for-iran-to-make-a-no-e... Iran treats it's people like shit and chooses terrorism over the welfare of it's own people https://newlinesmag.com/spotlight/the-islamic-republics-broken-promises-of-economic-justice/ https://newlinesmag.com/spotlight/the-islamic-republics-brok...
donkeybeer 7mo ago
Israel is the country engaged in Lebensraum, so if you want to make a WW2 analogy, Israel is nazi germany here.
- theonething 7mo ago
  Wow, ok... Iran invaded the US embassy holding 52 civilians hostage, has conducted unprovoked attacks against US, Israeli and other interests for more than 40 years, regularly launches missiles into Israeli airspace, indiscriminately attacks merchant vessels in international waters, massacres and tortures tens of thousands of their own people for the crime of speaking out against their government, sponsors terrorist groups like Hamas that massacred over a thousand people including children, raped women, etc. As for your comparisons of Israel to Nazi Germany, did the countries that Germany invaded have a history of launching rockets and terrorist attacks at Germany? Has Israel rounded up Palestinians in concentration camps and executed millions of them in gas chambers? But you're saying it's Israel that needs to be contained and they are Nazi Germany. Ok...
  - don_esteban 7mo ago
    Now list all the aggressive acts of Israel in the last whatever years. And think about it.
    - theonething 7mo ago
      I'll let you support your own points that you make.
  - donkeybeer 7mo ago
    > massacred over a thousand people including children, That's a classic IDF specialty, Israeli military are masters at shooting and killing children. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cpqwv9vvzx9o https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cpqwv9vvzx9o > Has Israel rounded up Palestinians in concentration camps and executed millions of them in gas chambers? Yes, jailed for years young boys and even teens without any reason. Why would they need gas chambers when traditional bombing of schools and hospitals is working beautifully and wonderfully to cull the palestinians? I looked up the claim of seizing tankers and it seems it has only ever happened during context of other wars like with Iraq. Israel openly celebrates rapists such as when the rapist soldier was released from trial. https://www.timesofisrael.com/5-idf-reservists-indicted-for-severe-abuse-of-palestinian-detainee-at-sde-teiman/ https://www.timesofisrael.com/5-idf-reservists-indicted-for-... And you don't need to ask me, just listen to the direct words of Bibi, Bezalel Smotrich and other Israeli government representatives how they want "Greater Israel" and wish for expansionism.

PickledHotdog 7mo ago

Iran was "contained" under Obama's deal with them....that Trump tore up....and when he was in the middle of negotiating a new one he attacked Iran who were in good faith negotiations. The rogue nation here is the US.

theonething 7mo ago
> Iran was "contained" under Obama's deal with them Oh, you mean the JCPOA that Iran violated (before it was rejected by Trump) by failing to disclose storage of undeclared nuclear material at secret sites in Turquzabad between 2009 and 2018 and at Lavisan-Shian, Varamin and Marivan starting in 2003 to early 2000s? UN watchdog declares Iran in breach of nuclear non-proliferation duties: https://www.iranintl.com/en/202506123029 https://www.iranintl.com/en/202506123029 The JCPOA, had weak stipulations on nuclear constraints that sunsetted after 15 years. The deal did not address Iran's missile program, human rights record or support for proxy terrorist groups like Hezbollah and Hamas. > Iran was in good faith negotiation Iran has historically made promises, broken them and lied about it. "The best time for Iran to have given up the weapons pursuit was after the 2003 embarrassment of being caught clearly lying about its nuclear program, but it did not. Over the years, the IAEA Board of Governors issued several warnings to the UN Security Council about the “possible military dimensions” of Iran’s nuclear program" https://thebulletin.org/2025/07/time-for-iran-to-make-a-no-enrichment-nuclear-deal/ https://thebulletin.org/2025/07/time-for-iran-to-make-a-no-e... Iran treats it's people like shit and chooses terrorism over the welfare of it's own people https://newlinesmag.com/spotlight/the-islamic-republics-broken-promises-of-economic-justice/ https://newlinesmag.com/spotlight/the-islamic-republics-brok...

donkeybeer 7mo ago

Israel is the country engaged in Lebensraum, so if you want to make a WW2 analogy, Israel is nazi germany here.

theonething 7mo ago
Wow, ok... Iran invaded the US embassy holding 52 civilians hostage, has conducted unprovoked attacks against US, Israeli and other interests for more than 40 years, regularly launches missiles into Israeli airspace, indiscriminately attacks merchant vessels in international waters, massacres and tortures tens of thousands of their own people for the crime of speaking out against their government, sponsors terrorist groups like Hamas that massacred over a thousand people including children, raped women, etc. As for your comparisons of Israel to Nazi Germany, did the countries that Germany invaded have a history of launching rockets and terrorist attacks at Germany? Has Israel rounded up Palestinians in concentration camps and executed millions of them in gas chambers? But you're saying it's Israel that needs to be contained and they are Nazi Germany. Ok...
- don_esteban 7mo ago
  Now list all the aggressive acts of Israel in the last whatever years. And think about it.
  - theonething 7mo ago
    I'll let you support your own points that you make.
- donkeybeer 7mo ago
  > massacred over a thousand people including children, That's a classic IDF specialty, Israeli military are masters at shooting and killing children. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cpqwv9vvzx9o https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cpqwv9vvzx9o > Has Israel rounded up Palestinians in concentration camps and executed millions of them in gas chambers? Yes, jailed for years young boys and even teens without any reason. Why would they need gas chambers when traditional bombing of schools and hospitals is working beautifully and wonderfully to cull the palestinians? I looked up the claim of seizing tankers and it seems it has only ever happened during context of other wars like with Iraq. Israel openly celebrates rapists such as when the rapist soldier was released from trial. https://www.timesofisrael.com/5-idf-reservists-indicted-for-severe-abuse-of-palestinian-detainee-at-sde-teiman/ https://www.timesofisrael.com/5-idf-reservists-indicted-for-... And you don't need to ask me, just listen to the direct words of Bibi, Bezalel Smotrich and other Israeli government representatives how they want "Greater Israel" and wish for expansionism.