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There are two elements to the EU The Council, which is headed by the government of each member state in equal measure - similar to the Senate in the US And Pa
by iso1631 7mo ago
There are two elements to the EU
The Council, which is headed by the government of each member state in equal measure - similar to the Senate in the US
And Parliament, which are directly elected by the people, with each member state having representitives in proportion to their population, so Germany has far more than Ireland. This is similar to Congress.
Now this site says Germany supports it, but then says that MEPS
> 49 oppose, 47 in favor (45 confirmed, 2 presumed based on government stance)
I would thus infer that the "most member states" refer to the national governments (that were elected by their population) position and not the direct MEP position.
However a quick look at the json it's loading and I can't see
Now as the parliament has blocked it, a grouping, the "EPP" (Think Ronald Reagan type republicans) is trying to use their influence to bring it back to a vote.
> "The Conservatives (EPP) are attempting to force a new vote on Thursday (26th), seeking to reverse Parliament's NO on indiscriminate scanning. This is a direct attack on democracy and blatant disregard for your right to privacy."
- sgt 7mo agoIs that fair? Ireland should surely have a say the same way Germany does in parliament too, if it's affecting Ireland just as much. If one considers countries as units.
- vrganj 7mo agoThat's the whole idea, the parliament doesn't. The Council is the representation of the countries. The Parliament of the people.
- sgt 7mo agoI get it.. my question wasn't exactly what I meant to ask. I meant isn't there some kind of compensating factor. So that a country with a 100 million doesn't completely and utterly outshine a small country of 4 million, even in the parliament? Or is the idea that the Council is sufficient to achieve this?
- vrganj 7mo agoI actually think the Council is more than sufficient to achieve this, we kind of see the opposite problem way more. Hungary, a country of 9M people, keeps vetoing stuff the rest of the Union wants to do. 450M people, held back by the despot ruling over a tiny fraction of them.
- iso1631 7mo agoIs it fair that California has more congresspeople than North Dakota? Parliament is the unit which represent the people Council (which is 1 country 1 vote) is what represents the countries.
- sgt 7mo agoYes it's fair that it has more to a degree, but North Dakota can't have literally proportional since it will completely swallowed up on Congress. How does this work in the US?
- vrganj 7mo agoWhy shouldn't it be swallowed up? Why should a persons vote in North Dakota be much more powerful than one in California?
- sgt 7mo agoBecause if you consider each state to be a "country"... these states didn't sign up so that they could be swallowed up by another state having a very high population growth. That said, California is generating more GDP so obviously I'm not arguing that they should be completely equally represented 1:1