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Actually - it's not Israeli influence. It's pro-Israel influence. Important difference. This includes lobby organisations funded or founded by wealthy Jews, con

Actually - it's not Israeli influence. It's pro-Israel influence. Important difference. This includes lobby organisations funded or founded by wealthy Jews, conservative Christian lobbyists, pro-arms trade interests, and geopolitical interests (essentially Israel acts as a US military proxy they can use to keep the middle east in check). Not quite Israel secretly pulling strings (which is quite rightly dismissed as traditional boring anti-semetic conspiracy theory wearing a different hat), more of an alignment of interests, which dictator Netenyahu is currently taking advantage of to pursue his own career agenda (complete destruction of Iran and security of Israel from the mindset of a paranoid Israeli nationalist). Naturally, this involves attempting to buy out journalists and promote propaganda - and the Israeli attempts to do this are usually rather inept. What's far more effective is the already existing domestic pro-Israel lobby groups that have a completely above board, and vastly more effective way of funding Israel (and the vastly more powerful US military-financial-geopolitical interests).

fromMars 6mo ago
Agree with your post. As a Jewish American, I have been advocating that it would be better for Americans and even Jews if we stop sending money to Israel and put political pressure on Israel to abandon illegal settlements, end the war on Gaza and work towards a resolution of the Israeli Palestinian conflict. Unfortunately, this POV doesn't seem to be widely held by many woth influence.
- throw7384r8 6mo ago
  Illegal settlements are mostly pushed by radical jews from US. Israel does not really have money and people resources, for this endless war.
  - fromMars 6mo ago
    Do you have any sources for this? I know a lot of Jews in the U.S. support Israel, but not sure why they would care about settlements if they don't live there. And if what you say is true, why is Netanyahu still in power? That said I don't think your point undermines my suggestion that the U.S. should get out of the business of funding Israel and joining it in any wars over there.
- Pay08 6mo ago
  A 2 state solution is still wildly unpopular amongst Palestinians (both in the West Bank and Gaza), and since 10/7, is now a minority opinion (although still the plurality) amongst Israelis[1]. They also did try as recently as 2009, not that you'd have heard about it[2]. Also, the aid money the USA sends to Israel doesn't disappear into nothing any more than NASA's funding does. American aid to Israel (and to most places in the world) hinges on the condition that they only use that money to buy from American companies. [1]: https://www.pcpsr.org/ https://www.pcpsr.org/ [2]: https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/israel-middle-east/articles/israel-insider-guide https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/israel-middle-east/articl...
  - cramsession 6mo ago
    NASA is exploring space, our money to Israel encourages US participation in genocide, apartheid, ethnic cleansing and global war. I'm in the US and support a single state solution: Palestine. I think most people under the age of 45 are in agreement.
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fromMars 6mo ago

Agree with your post. As a Jewish American, I have been advocating that it would be better for Americans and even Jews if we stop sending money to Israel and put political pressure on Israel to abandon illegal settlements, end the war on Gaza and work towards a resolution of the Israeli Palestinian conflict. Unfortunately, this POV doesn't seem to be widely held by many woth influence.

throw7384r8 6mo ago
Illegal settlements are mostly pushed by radical jews from US. Israel does not really have money and people resources, for this endless war.
- fromMars 6mo ago
  Do you have any sources for this? I know a lot of Jews in the U.S. support Israel, but not sure why they would care about settlements if they don't live there. And if what you say is true, why is Netanyahu still in power? That said I don't think your point undermines my suggestion that the U.S. should get out of the business of funding Israel and joining it in any wars over there.
Pay08 6mo ago
A 2 state solution is still wildly unpopular amongst Palestinians (both in the West Bank and Gaza), and since 10/7, is now a minority opinion (although still the plurality) amongst Israelis[1]. They also did try as recently as 2009, not that you'd have heard about it[2]. Also, the aid money the USA sends to Israel doesn't disappear into nothing any more than NASA's funding does. American aid to Israel (and to most places in the world) hinges on the condition that they only use that money to buy from American companies. [1]: https://www.pcpsr.org/ https://www.pcpsr.org/ [2]: https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/israel-middle-east/articles/israel-insider-guide https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/israel-middle-east/articl...
- cramsession 6mo ago
  NASA is exploring space, our money to Israel encourages US participation in genocide, apartheid, ethnic cleansing and global war. I'm in the US and support a single state solution: Palestine. I think most people under the age of 45 are in agreement.

nailer 6mo ago

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