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- mattfrommars 6mo ago[flagged]
- vrganj 6mo agoIs it anti-semitism or anti-Israel sentiment? Because if it's the latter, well, have you taken a look at their behavior recently? Their ethnicity/religion has nothing to do with why people condemn the state.
- nailer 6mo ago[flagged]
- vrganj 6mo agoHas Germany been bombing its neighbors lately?
- nailer 6mo ago[flagged]
- vrganj 6mo agoIndeed. But as you might notice, WW2 is almost a century ago at this point. Were they to do it in the present day, they would have to face present day criticism. However, they don't do that anymore, which makes your whole attempt at false equivalency rather hollow.
- nailer 6mo ago[flagged]
- falnatsheh 6mo agoI don't think Ukrainian will appreciate your logic.
- nailer 6mo ago[flagged]
- falnatsheh 6mo agoPalestinian didn't start the war either. Read the Balfour Declaration: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration
- nailer 6mo ago[flagged]
- jmward01 6mo agoThis exactly. Expressing a view that the Israeli government is causing massive harm to the world right now is not a view on an ethnic or religious group. There is a difference, but I have been noticing a strong attempt to try to link the two.
- vrganj 6mo agoIt is the shield behind which these war criminals hide, not caring that their behavior is causing an actual surge in antisemitism.
- kittikitti 6mo agoYou think defending foreign influence by Israeli's in European politics is tantamount to defending against antisemitism?
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- jstummbillig 6mo ago[flagged]
- emsign 6mo ago[flagged]
- GZGavinZhao 6mo agoAlways baffles me why some people think and act like being proud of their state/country/race and criticizing its actions are mutually exclusive.
- Jerrrrrrrry 6mo agoBecause its actions are exclusively critiquable and little to commiserate.
- sp4cec0wb0y 6mo agoTell my fellow Americans this too.
- Tostino 6mo agoThis site definitely has a cohort of completely unhinged war mongers. The same names (and a bunch of random new accounts) never fail to show up to defend genocide or any other atrocities being committed.
- epolanski 6mo agoThis board sure attracts hordes of alt right apologists and anarcho capitalists. And in general a huge lack of empathy and obsession with power and money. I guess it's normal given the coupling to the #1 VC incubator of the #1 country that obsesses over power and money.
- Imustaskforhelp 6mo agoYou either find some of the most humble, down to earth, open source contributing people who value human life in it of itself within this forum who share as much knowledge/try to do good for the world, or you find people as you mention who completely disregard the previous ideals. There isn't much in-between. I do think that there is some utilitarian aspect to it. Some people might genuinely believe that the losses to human livelihoods/human lives because of AI (yes even with these AI drones now with the deal @OpenAI), the end reality would still make everything worth it and within this distorted view of the future, they believe that everything happening in present is alright for the future and that itself can be used to propose some disgusting idea like eugenics which people might become okay with, as such. And its very easy to switch somewhere within the past of a person being the former to the latter through the ladder steps of altruism to transhumanism to essentially the things we hear from AI hypebros. All the while, a benefit is that especially right now, selling AI sells for profit right now whereas people can question about the morality later/justify it through these distorted lenses that I mentioned. Worth a watch, Can't recommend this video enough, AI is a Eugenics Project : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SSxfa3da58 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SSxfa3da58
- epolanski 6mo agoI'm quite convinced that Israelis have an edge in communication and socials. And god forbid how easily you're labeled as anti semitic for bringing up facts about Israeli spying and lobbying in the west. Hell, in Italy, neo nazi hooligans go protest for Israel with hundreds of police defending them. Whereas genuine pro Palestinian protests (99 times out of 100 peaceful) met nothing but batons and condemnation. Even the tv narratives about these events is disgusting. It's clear the Israelis know how to do their job.
- Imustaskforhelp 6mo ago> Doesn't matter, half of HN will still defend them. And I would say half can't/won't speak about this. I try to stray away from these discussions sometimes because I feel worried that someone is going to take any comment out of context within these messages which is a bit of a strange way of self censorship actually and I feel like I might not be the only one. It's also worth mentioning that I have found this to be the case especially for Israel. For example, I feel valid criticizing the current American Regime and Americans themselves would agree with me at a a much higher proportion/magnitude compared to Israel in which from my small sample bias of online acquaintances, I only had one Jewish (Living in America, not Israeli) person agree that Israel is doing some pretty horrendous things and although do take this with a grain of salt as something they told me but they said that Zionism and Antisemitism are effectively something comparable as within the Jewish religion, There is an idea of the world hating the Jews as being a pre-condition within Jewish religion for them to win within the end-times theology of the jewish faith. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gog_and_Magog https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gog_and_Magog I think they were referencing this: Zechariah 14:2 states, "I will gather all the nations to Jerusalem to fight against it." The idea is that the Jewish people will have no earthly allies left.
- moogly 6mo ago> There is an idea of the world hating the Jews as being a pre-condition within Jewish religion for them to win within the end-times theology of the jewish faith. Just so we're clear, this is religious fundamentalism.