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> And at a moment when the climate demands immediate action to reduce our footprint on this planet, the AI boom is driving data centers to consume a full 1.5% o
by herodoturtle 6mo ago
> And at a moment when the climate demands immediate action to reduce our footprint on this planet, the AI boom is driving data centers to consume a full 1.5% of the world’s total energy production in order to eliminate the jobs of the poor and replace them with a robot that lies.
That sentence jumped out at me.
- CobrastanJorji 6mo agoIt's a little wrong. It's probably going to replace middle class jobs more than the jobs of the poor.
- sam_lowry_ 6mo agoPoor tend to think of themselves as middle-class.
- metalliqaz 6mo agoso do the rich note I used "rich" there, not "wealthy"
- soperj 6mo agoThe middle class is poor now.
- nickvec 6mo agoYep. The middle class is quickly disappearing.
- linkregister 6mo agoFor an environmentmaxxer, eliminating upper-middle class jobs is extremely effective, as this group consumes the lion's share of resources and bears the greatest impact on carbon emissions. Remember that the majority of industry is upstream of consumption. Not endorsing this world view, just noting that the wealthiest 1% of people in the world (encompasses most US citizens) have an enormously outsized impact on climate.
- CobrastanJorji 6mo agoThe "upper middle class" is not strictly defined, but they are pretty clearly the folks below the wealthiest 1%. You can't be in the middle without something on either side. They certain consume far more than the poor, on account of having resources, but they also consume far less than the wealthiest 1%.
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- linkregister 6mo agoYou are almost certainly in the global 1% of the wealthy [1]. Compared to developing nations' residents, we have an order of magnitude greater impact on the environment. 1. https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-17512040 https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-17512040
- Legend2440 6mo ago>Remember that the majority of industry is upstream of consumption. People forget this. Oil companies may have dug up the oil, but they did so because we paid them to, so we could use the energy for good and useful things. Climate change isn't 'evil billionaire companies are ruining the world', it's 'these things we did to improve our lives turn out to have side effects'.
- sam_lowry_ 6mo agoThe discussion is about the current generation of LLMs. It's not yet clear whether side-effects outweigh the advantages. OTOH, I can already argue with numbers at hand that Bitcoin made the world poorer and worse off.
- Legend2440 6mo agoThis is backwards. If it weren't for 'eliminating jobs' we'd both be peasant farmers right now. Automation has improved the standard of living and raised wages for everyone, rich and poor alike.
- snackerblues 6mo agoOk, Claude.