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What people don’t need is someone dictating to them how they should relax after work. Besides, it’s not like TVs are the only industry where consumer choice is

by hnlmorg 7mo ago

What people don’t need is someone dictating to them how they should relax after work. Besides, it’s not like TVs are the only industry where consumer choice is an illusion. You see the same problem in a lot of sports (I used to fence and there was a great deal of pressure to buy equipment from one specific manufacturer which charged literally 4x the price for their gear). And it’s not just hobbies either. I need a car for family duties and there are plenty of parts on it that can only be replaced by an authorised dealer.

rbanffy 7mo ago
> What people don’t need is someone dictating to them how they should relax after work. Nobody dictates that. What we do is to suggest there might be more rewarding things to do with their time off than watching TV between the dopamine hits from TikTok
- hnlmorg 7mo ago
  Which is ostensibly the same thing
  - rbanffy 7mo ago
    You are not forced to comply with the suggestion.
    - hnlmorg 7mo ago
      If you must argue semantics, then… Not physically forced, but that doesn’t mean the comments weren’t said in a way that might appear forceful to other people due to the combination of bluntness and lack of compassion. For something to be dictated, you don’t have to be in a position to enforce those comments. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/dictate https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/dictate
j_w 7mo ago
Replying to this comment since clearly the point is misunderstood. The core part of what I wrote was "need." If you believe you "need" as in "can't go without" a TV, in this example, then you probably should consider whether or not you may be addicted to consuming television. Do this as an exercise: Which of these statements indicates that somebody may have a a problem? - I need a cigarette - I need a beer - I need a TV - I need to eat - I need some water - I need to relax The last three are clearly real needs. The first two are addictive. TV isn't a literal need, so if you find yourself NEEDING it, you may have a problem.
- hnlmorg 7mo ago
  > The last three are clearly real needs Eg > I need to relax And you’re replying to my comment that said: > What people don’t need is someone dictating to them how they should relax after work. I do get the point you’re trying to make. But at best it’s an irrelevant semantic that, by your own admission, is still a basic need. And at worst, it’s just elitist “I don’t enjoy x so you shouldn’t either” BS. Either way, it’s not a constructive argument.
  - j_w 7mo ago
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by hnlmorg 7mo ago

rbanffy 7mo ago

> What people don’t need is someone dictating to them how they should relax after work. Nobody dictates that. What we do is to suggest there might be more rewarding things to do with their time off than watching TV between the dopamine hits from TikTok

hnlmorg 7mo ago
Which is ostensibly the same thing
- rbanffy 7mo ago
  You are not forced to comply with the suggestion.
  - hnlmorg 7mo ago
    If you must argue semantics, then… Not physically forced, but that doesn’t mean the comments weren’t said in a way that might appear forceful to other people due to the combination of bluntness and lack of compassion. For something to be dictated, you don’t have to be in a position to enforce those comments. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/dictate https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/dictate

j_w 7mo ago

Replying to this comment since clearly the point is misunderstood. The core part of what I wrote was "need." If you believe you "need" as in "can't go without" a TV, in this example, then you probably should consider whether or not you may be addicted to consuming television. Do this as an exercise: Which of these statements indicates that somebody may have a a problem? - I need a cigarette - I need a beer - I need a TV - I need to eat - I need some water - I need to relax The last three are clearly real needs. The first two are addictive. TV isn't a literal need, so if you find yourself NEEDING it, you may have a problem.

hnlmorg 7mo ago
> The last three are clearly real needs Eg > I need to relax And you’re replying to my comment that said: > What people don’t need is someone dictating to them how they should relax after work. I do get the point you’re trying to make. But at best it’s an irrelevant semantic that, by your own admission, is still a basic need. And at worst, it’s just elitist “I don’t enjoy x so you shouldn’t either” BS. Either way, it’s not a constructive argument.
- j_w 7mo ago
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