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Windows was so bad that it made the web bad. Imagine the world we'd be in today if Internet Explorer never existed.

PaulHoule 7mo ago
Well back in the 1990s Apple was on the ropes. Classic MacOS was designed to support handling events from the keyboard, mouse and floppy in 1984 and adding events from the internet broke it. It was fun using a Mac and being able to get all your work done without touching a command line, but for a while it crashed, crashed and crashed when you tried to browse the web until that fateful version where they added locks to stop the crashes but then it was beachball... beachball... beachball... They took investment from Microsoft at their bottom and then they came out with OS X which is as POSIXy as any modern OS and was able to handle running a web browser. In the 1990s you could also run Linux and at the time I thought Linux was far ahead of Windows in every way. Granted there were many categories of software like office suites that were not available, but installing most software was ./configure make sudo make install but if your system was unusual (Linux in 1994, Solaris in 2004) you might need to patch the source somewhere.
- jhatemyjob 7mo ago
  If it wasn't for NeXT and Valve we would still be in the dark ages. Linux sucked for gaming until Valve poured all that money into Wine. I started with Windows 98. Didn't experience OSX until 2010. 9 years wasted.
  - pjmlp 7mo ago
    It still sucks for gaming, those are Windows games running on Proton, not much different from running arcade games with MAME, Amiga games with WinUAE,...
    - queenkjuul 7mo ago
      I think it is different. As someone joked, "thanks to Wine, Win32 is the 'stable Linux ABI'" -- translating system calls is a lot different than emulating hardware, and the results prove it
      - pjmlp 7mo ago
        And to target it, studios use Windows alongside Visual Studio.
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      - jhatemyjob 7mo ago
        And with the R&D that went into the Steam Frame, the difference between x64 and arm64 is becoming negligible. You can target x64 Windows and can reasonably expect it to run on Android via Winlator.

Well back in the 1990s Apple was on the ropes. Classic MacOS was designed to support handling events from the keyboard, mouse and floppy in 1984 and adding events from the internet broke it. It was fun using a Mac and being able to get all your work done without touching a command line, but for a while it crashed, crashed and crashed when you tried to browse the web until that fateful version where they added locks to stop the crashes but then it was beachball... beachball... beachball... They took investment from Microsoft at their bottom and then they came out with OS X which is as POSIXy as any modern OS and was able to handle running a web browser. In the 1990s you could also run Linux and at the time I thought Linux was far ahead of Windows in every way. Granted there were many categories of software like office suites that were not available, but installing most software was ./configure make sudo make install but if your system was unusual (Linux in 1994, Solaris in 2004) you might need to patch the source somewhere.

jhatemyjob 7mo ago
If it wasn't for NeXT and Valve we would still be in the dark ages. Linux sucked for gaming until Valve poured all that money into Wine. I started with Windows 98. Didn't experience OSX until 2010. 9 years wasted.
- pjmlp 7mo ago
  It still sucks for gaming, those are Windows games running on Proton, not much different from running arcade games with MAME, Amiga games with WinUAE,...
  - queenkjuul 7mo ago
    I think it is different. As someone joked, "thanks to Wine, Win32 is the 'stable Linux ABI'" -- translating system calls is a lot different than emulating hardware, and the results prove it
    - pjmlp 7mo ago
      And to target it, studios use Windows alongside Visual Studio.
      - deleted 7mo ago
        [deleted]
    - jhatemyjob 7mo ago
      And with the R&D that went into the Steam Frame, the difference between x64 and arm64 is becoming negligible. You can target x64 Windows and can reasonably expect it to run on Android via Winlator.