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Does not benefit average Joe now I agree But let’s say we get to ASI. The ai is self owned, ever expanding. It takes over all service jobs, then all labour job

by r0fl 7mo ago

Does not benefit average Joe now I agree But let’s say we get to ASI. The ai is self owned, ever expanding. It takes over all service jobs, then all labour jobs, the robots create the robots. It lobbies the government, becomes the government Rebuilds all housing with no waste in the process Makes most things available to everyone at no costs, UBI, perfect healthcare, and food, etc Average Joe’s life will be pretty awesome Just give it some more time

rokkamokka 7mo ago
Pretty big assumption of empathy there
- bluefirebrand 7mo ago
  Especially given that the people who currently control money and power display no evidence that they have empathy
  - sylos 7mo ago
    They actively detest empathy!
- sigbottle 7mo ago
  I've also never bought into the belief that "if we just had full control over everything, everything would be perfect". If AI didn't exist, society was headed this way anyways in a few decades because of this notion. Centralize power, which centralizes perspective of what "good" counts as, and quotient out the accidental humans. A tale as old as time, but with AI it seems like this could be a reality within even the next decade.
  - cindyllm 7mo ago
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levanten 7mo ago
There is no guarantee that the asi would care about human beings at all. Personally, I can’t see why it would.
- irishcoffee 7mo ago
  This is where "The Matrix" goes from sci-fi to a documentary.
myrmidon 7mo ago
But why would this ever happen? Why would the owners of land, construction material and machinery give those up for free to the average Joe? Right now, even an average citizen born in poverty can acquire wealth from his labor. That is basically the only mechanism that prevents limitless accumulation of wealth: rich people still need workers to get things done. If you replace the workers with AI, there is no remaining incentive for wealth to "trickle down" or get redistributed. This is not desirable.
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by r0fl 7mo ago

rokkamokka 7mo ago

Pretty big assumption of empathy there

bluefirebrand 7mo ago
Especially given that the people who currently control money and power display no evidence that they have empathy
- sylos 7mo ago
  They actively detest empathy!
sigbottle 7mo ago
I've also never bought into the belief that "if we just had full control over everything, everything would be perfect". If AI didn't exist, society was headed this way anyways in a few decades because of this notion. Centralize power, which centralizes perspective of what "good" counts as, and quotient out the accidental humans. A tale as old as time, but with AI it seems like this could be a reality within even the next decade.
- cindyllm 7mo ago
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levanten 7mo ago

There is no guarantee that the asi would care about human beings at all. Personally, I can’t see why it would.

irishcoffee 7mo ago
This is where "The Matrix" goes from sci-fi to a documentary.

myrmidon 7mo ago

But why would this ever happen? Why would the owners of land, construction material and machinery give those up for free to the average Joe? Right now, even an average citizen born in poverty can acquire wealth from his labor. That is basically the only mechanism that prevents limitless accumulation of wealth: rich people still need workers to get things done. If you replace the workers with AI, there is no remaining incentive for wealth to "trickle down" or get redistributed. This is not desirable.

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