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USA bans all new routers for consumers
- porridgeraisin 7mo agoIf you take qualcomm (tplink and netgear use this for example), only standards development and frontier RF r&d happen mostly in the US. Most of the RFIC, RTL+firmware+software is mostly from their GCCs in India. Fab in TSMC. Assembly in China. So what's the plan here.
- iAMkenough 7mo agoThe plan? Government control through "conditional approval" process and making it more costly to own a router than rent one from a consumer internet provider.
- gambiting 7mo agoBut....your ISP also has to procure a router from somewhere. Or are they just going to slap a sticker that says "verizon" on it and say it was made in the USA now?
- everyday7732 7mo agoThey'll get a special government exemption, in return for accepting additional voluntary government oversight or some other under the table favour system.
- iAMkenough 7mo agoThat's why there's a "conditional approval" process attached to this rule.
- vincnetas 7mo agothis is basically saying "you cant do anything unless i allow you to (and i might for a price)" in contrast to when government should just say "these are the things that you cant do, anything else is ok".
- LastTrain 7mo agoTo do with electronics what they do with cars, raise the barrier to entry to give domestic manufacturers an edge. Except with routers there is no inherently US category of device with tax loopholes carved out like there is with cars; i.e. big-ass trucks and SUVs. The cynical side of me expects that approval for sale in the US will require some kind of surveillance back door as well.
- alphawhisky 7mo agoDo I wanna know why? I don't wanna know why.
- exabrial 7mo ago"from intelligence agencies" Pretty much, foreign adversaries have been using American home internet for years sounds like? This is a baseless claim fyi, I'm just trying to connect the dots.
- HappySweeney 7mo agoIf I had to guess it would be "campaign contributions".
- andre-p 7mo agoThe ban also includes a 2027 cutoff date for security updates to any unapproved routers. Given the long replacement cycle on home routers, I think the bigger security risk will end up being the millions of people using routers with unpatched security vulnerabilities…
- LeFantome 7mo agoThis is about the dumbest thing I have ever heard
- johnisgood 7mo agoHow come?
- Bombthecat 7mo agoFeels like.. that's the point
- goplayoutside 7mo agoRelated discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47495344 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47495344
- ChrisArchitect 7mo ago[dupe] Discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47495344 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47495344
- LeFantome 7mo agoCanadians and Mexicans may start supplying banned tech into the US like the rum-runners of old.
- m463 7mo agoI kind of wonder if we can also fix the "every device has internet access" problem. All consumer routers let anything out. Your TV, your refrigerator, your microwave oven have unfettered access to the mothership - and data collectors/advertisers. I think with 5g and 6g these devices might be getting other channels, and the two combined will just give us a huge proxy for the routers they are banning.
- iAMkenough 7mo agoYou said "also fix" but I'm not sure what preventing existing home routers from receiving security updates after 2027 fixes.
- johnisgood 7mo agoDo microwaves really have "smart" bs?
- Henchman21 7mo agoMy 20-year old one sure doesn't. I do wish it could listen to the NIST Time signal to set the clock though :)
- nerdsniper 7mo agoDoes this include ubiquiti? I can’t tell if that’s “consumer” or business/enterprise.
- rehevkor5 7mo agoNot "new routers" but "new router models".