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> Why aren’t there more ‘semi dumb’ Ethernet or wifi products that just let you announce that dinner is ready? Because of 2 reasons 1) this is very antisocial

> Why aren’t there more ‘semi dumb’ Ethernet or wifi products that just let you announce that dinner is ready? Because of 2 reasons 1) this is very antisocial behavior. 2) so many people have a mobile phone at arm's reach a majority of the time so there you have your intercom. Well educated members of an household would know when dinner is ready because they would actually help make it ready for everyone. Occasionally one teenager could legitimately focus on homework but it is not actually a bad thing that someone has to move its ass and walk upstairs to knock at their door and tell them. We call that free exercise, much cheaper than a fitness subscription. When I hear about home assistant and domotic in general, the only image that comes to me is those scenes in Wall-E where people live in a flying armchair with a holo screen in front of their face 24/7, their only interaction with a physical world being to only move their arms once in a while to grab a soda. When I was a kid I remember a house we rented for a while came with intercom using the electrical lines. Past the initial novelty, they mostly collected dust and ended up being unplugged.

greggsy 7mo ago
It’s not antisocial… at all? I’m genuinely confused why you would think that. > Well educated members of an household would know when dinner is ready because they would actually help make it ready for everyone. This is one of the most obnoxious things I have read all year.
- mytailorisrich 7mo ago
  Needing an app or tech device to announce to your spouse and children at home that dinner is ready is beyond antisocial, actually. It's ridiculously sad and pathetic. And then people will complain that children these days spend their time in front of a screen... I think @prmoustache is also referring to manners in general.
  - OkayPhysicist 7mo ago
    Maybe you live in a smaller space than I'm imagining, but if Dad's in the kitchen making dinner and other Dad is in the garage trying to figure out what he's going to need for the backpacking trip next weekend and the youngest kid is in the office with her headphones in listening to music while doing her homework and the eldest is upstairs chatting with his friends on Discord, then the options are A) scramble around the entire house going "dinner in 5 minutes" B) yell the same, hope people hear it, and negatively affect your mood C) have some sort of system that lets everyone know with the tap of a button.
    - prmoustache 7mo ago
      You might want to learn the concept of delegation. Kid in the office can tell their sibling who can then tell other dad. Additionally, cooking in group is a great moment to have a conversation, much more than the actual dinner where everybody is chewing.
      - fragmede 7mo ago
        > Kid in the office can tell their sibling who can then tell other dad. The trope is mom tells the kid to tell dad dinner's ready, and kid just yells really loud to dad, while mom looks on with exasperation. Or was that just my childhood?
        prmoustache 7mo ago
        > Or was that just my childhood? I guess so, I wouldn't have done that as a kid, nor do my own kids do that or they would quickly lose privileges.
      - OkayPhysicist 7mo ago
        Cooking a family dinner together is a fun group activity, like a board game night. Which is great, say, one night a week. Feeding a family has to happen every night, where more can be done, faster, by a single person. And if you can't figure out how to eat and hold a conversation, you have failed at quite possibly the single oldest human activity. And the delegation approach defeats the entire purpose of the fore-warning, which is to allow people to wrap up whatever they were doing, out of respect for their time.
        mytailorisrich 7mo ago
        I think you are being needlessly argumentative and a little insulting, too, starting from your reply to my previous comment (with the quip about the size of my home...) and now this one to @prmoustache, which is quite uncalled for
        prmoustache 7mo ago

greggsy 7mo ago

It’s not antisocial… at all? I’m genuinely confused why you would think that. > Well educated members of an household would know when dinner is ready because they would actually help make it ready for everyone. This is one of the most obnoxious things I have read all year.

mytailorisrich 7mo ago
Needing an app or tech device to announce to your spouse and children at home that dinner is ready is beyond antisocial, actually. It's ridiculously sad and pathetic. And then people will complain that children these days spend their time in front of a screen... I think @prmoustache is also referring to manners in general.
- OkayPhysicist 7mo ago
  Maybe you live in a smaller space than I'm imagining, but if Dad's in the kitchen making dinner and other Dad is in the garage trying to figure out what he's going to need for the backpacking trip next weekend and the youngest kid is in the office with her headphones in listening to music while doing her homework and the eldest is upstairs chatting with his friends on Discord, then the options are A) scramble around the entire house going "dinner in 5 minutes" B) yell the same, hope people hear it, and negatively affect your mood C) have some sort of system that lets everyone know with the tap of a button.
  - prmoustache 7mo ago
    You might want to learn the concept of delegation. Kid in the office can tell their sibling who can then tell other dad. Additionally, cooking in group is a great moment to have a conversation, much more than the actual dinner where everybody is chewing.
    - fragmede 7mo ago
      > Kid in the office can tell their sibling who can then tell other dad. The trope is mom tells the kid to tell dad dinner's ready, and kid just yells really loud to dad, while mom looks on with exasperation. Or was that just my childhood?
      - prmoustache 7mo ago
        > Or was that just my childhood? I guess so, I wouldn't have done that as a kid, nor do my own kids do that or they would quickly lose privileges.
    - OkayPhysicist 7mo ago
      Cooking a family dinner together is a fun group activity, like a board game night. Which is great, say, one night a week. Feeding a family has to happen every night, where more can be done, faster, by a single person. And if you can't figure out how to eat and hold a conversation, you have failed at quite possibly the single oldest human activity. And the delegation approach defeats the entire purpose of the fore-warning, which is to allow people to wrap up whatever they were doing, out of respect for their time.
      - mytailorisrich 7mo ago
        I think you are being needlessly argumentative and a little insulting, too, starting from your reply to my previous comment (with the quip about the size of my home...) and now this one to @prmoustache, which is quite uncalled for
      - prmoustache 7mo ago