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> there will be nothing really new How is this the conclusion? Isn't this post about AI solving something new? What am I missing?
by bogdan 7mo ago
> there will be nothing really new
How is this the conclusion? Isn't this post about AI solving something new? What am I missing?
- paganel 7mo agoEach solvable problem contains its solution intrinsically, so to speak, it’s only a matter of time and consuming of resources to get to it. There’s nothing creative about it, which is I think what OP was alluding to (the creative part). I’m talking mostly mathematics. There’s also a discussion to be made about maths not being intrinsically creative if AI automatons can “solve” parts of it, which pains me to write down because I had really thought that that wasn’t the case, I genuinely thought that deep down there was still something ethereal about maths, but I’ll leave that discussion for some other time.
- qsera 7mo agoBecause economy. Look at marvel movies, do you think the latest one is really new? Or just a rehash of what they found working commercially? Look at all the AI generated blog posts that is flooding the internet.. LLMs might produce something new once in a long while due to blind luck, but if it can generate something that pushes the right buttons (aka not really creative) to majority of population, then that is what we will keep getting... I don't think I have to elaborate on the "multiplying the bad" part as it is pretty well acknowledged..
- timschmidt 7mo agoThat's literally all culture: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJPERZDfyWc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJPERZDfyWc
- qsera 7mo agoThe difference is whether an entity that can "feel" is in the loop and how much they have contributed to it even if it is a remix.
- timschmidt 7mo agoI think there's demonstrably very little difference at all between human and AI outputs, and that's exactly what freaks people out about it. Else they wouldn't be so obsessed with trying to find and define what makes it different. The Thesis of Everything is a Remix is that there is no difference in how any culture is produced. Different models will have a different flavor to their output in the same way as different people contribute their own experiences to a work.
- qsera 7mo ago> demonstrably very little difference at all between human and AI outputs Is there "demonstrably" a lot of difference between Shakespeare and an HN comment? The point is exactly that there is no such difference. And that it enables slop to be sold as art. And that exactly is the danger. But another point is we had the even before LLMs. And LLMs just make it more explicit and makes it possible at scale.
- timschmidt 7mo agoConrad Gessner had the very same complaint in the 16th century, noting the overabundance of printed books, fretting about shoddy, trivial, or error-filled works ( https://www.jstor.org/stable/26560192 https://www.jstor.org/stable/26560192 )
- qsera 7mo agoSo....what is your point?
- timschmidt 7mo agoGenerations have grown and died in the time since your concern was first expressed. The world continues. Culture adapts.
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