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The only idiots are the people who voted for Trump

by Braxton1980 6mo ago

kelnos 6mo ago
It's tempting to dismiss them like that, but that doesn't fix anything. The reality is much more complicated. The Democratic party is far from perfect (they kinda suck, in fact), and if they aren't attracting voters, "the other side is just stupid" is a useless, arrogant way to go.
- no-name-here 6mo ago
  Attracting voters with things like repeatedly promising to drastically cut consumer prices on most everything ‘from day 1’, repeatedly promising no new wars/stopping being ‘the world police’, quickly ending the Russian invasion of Ukraine, etc?
  - kelnos 6mo ago
    Hey, I'm not saying Trump and the GOP are great. They disgust me. But they talk to people in a way they find engaging. Even when they lie, somehow. But regardless, I'm not sure how what you said has anything to do with what I wrote. The Democratic party often sounds like a bunch of elitists, and that turns off many voters, even those who might consider themselves liberal or progressive. I'll likely vote for Democrats in every election until I die, but I don't think of myself as a Democrat, and haven't registered as one in decades (fortunately the Democratic party has open primaries in California, so I don't have to declare a party).
    - Braxton1980 6mo ago
      >The Democratic party often sounds like a bunch of elitists Can you give an example of a Democrat politician making elitist statements? How do you know this feeling isn't the result of propaganda by the Republican party and their news media supporters to paint the Democrats as elite?
- Braxton1980 6mo ago
  Neither party will ever be perfect. One is better than the other.
  - kelnos 6mo ago
    Oh I absolutely agree. I'm not trying to "both-sides" this. I'm just saying that calling conservatives stupid/idiots isn't productive and isn't going to solve anything.
    - Braxton1980 6mo ago
      The voters are the source of the problem and we need to focus on them instead of Trump because once he is gone they'll just elect another piece of shit. A large portion of the population doesn't vote but if they understand the real danger of Trump supporters maybe that will motivate them

The only idiots are the people who voted for Trump

It's tempting to dismiss them like that, but that doesn't fix anything. The reality is much more complicated. The Democratic party is far from perfect (they kinda suck, in fact), and if they aren't attracting voters, "the other side is just stupid" is a useless, arrogant way to go.

no-name-here 6mo ago
Attracting voters with things like repeatedly promising to drastically cut consumer prices on most everything ‘from day 1’, repeatedly promising no new wars/stopping being ‘the world police’, quickly ending the Russian invasion of Ukraine, etc?
- kelnos 6mo ago
  Hey, I'm not saying Trump and the GOP are great. They disgust me. But they talk to people in a way they find engaging. Even when they lie, somehow. But regardless, I'm not sure how what you said has anything to do with what I wrote. The Democratic party often sounds like a bunch of elitists, and that turns off many voters, even those who might consider themselves liberal or progressive. I'll likely vote for Democrats in every election until I die, but I don't think of myself as a Democrat, and haven't registered as one in decades (fortunately the Democratic party has open primaries in California, so I don't have to declare a party).
  - Braxton1980 6mo ago
    >The Democratic party often sounds like a bunch of elitists Can you give an example of a Democrat politician making elitist statements? How do you know this feeling isn't the result of propaganda by the Republican party and their news media supporters to paint the Democrats as elite?
Braxton1980 6mo ago
Neither party will ever be perfect. One is better than the other.
- kelnos 6mo ago
  Oh I absolutely agree. I'm not trying to "both-sides" this. I'm just saying that calling conservatives stupid/idiots isn't productive and isn't going to solve anything.
  - Braxton1980 6mo ago
    The voters are the source of the problem and we need to focus on them instead of Trump because once he is gone they'll just elect another piece of shit. A large portion of the population doesn't vote but if they understand the real danger of Trump supporters maybe that will motivate them