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> Also a lot of bullet points are bad > Slides should have maybe a sentence of text at most Proceeds to have slides with many bullet points and more than seve

> Also a lot of bullet points are bad > Slides should have maybe a sentence of text at most Proceeds to have slides with many bullet points and more than several sentences of text per. I don't find issue with the slides as they are but if you're going to make arbitrary rules why not follow them yourself?

DonaldPShimoda 6mo ago
I haven't seen the associated talk, but (a) I would imagine the author chuckled while reading this, because it's sort of a joke among scholars, and (b) the point is likely focused much more on the context of presenting research (e.g., at conferences) rather than a blanket ironclad rule for all presentations you ever make ever. While I think there's some validity to your point that the author's presentation suffers excess verbosity, I'm not too worried about it because the linked slides seem more meant to act as a reference document than an example of a good presentation, and the level of text is just fine for that purpose.
- eugenevinitsky 6mo ago
  Yeah I’m the author, this was a joke. I also wanted to convey to the students in the room that this was not a high quality presentation, more so text just converted into presentation form.
  - DonaldPShimoda 6mo ago
    Seemed pretty clear to me, for what it's worth, but perhaps it is less obvious to those not steeped in similar traditions of academia. Thanks for this, by the way! It's a lovely resource!
magiclaw 6mo ago
I always thought this was funny. We were taught this in grad school, but hardly anybody followed this guideline. "If there's too much text on the slide, the audience will be busy reading the slide, and not paying attention to you". I try to have just the main point on the slide, then I can talk around it. The details should be in the slide notes, if you need reminders.
jgeada 6mo ago
There are presentations that you actually present to an audience, to which this point is valid. But lots of presentations, including this one I think, are merely used as a means of conveying information (yeah, not my favorite way of doing so, but being a contrarian doesn't do anybody's career any good), and those are indeed intended to be read and need to have explicitly all the information that you otherwise would be speaking and addressing.
collabs 6mo ago
My guess is probably there is a difference between slides used for presentation and slides used for reading myself alone
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DonaldPShimoda 6mo ago

I haven't seen the associated talk, but (a) I would imagine the author chuckled while reading this, because it's sort of a joke among scholars, and (b) the point is likely focused much more on the context of presenting research (e.g., at conferences) rather than a blanket ironclad rule for all presentations you ever make ever. While I think there's some validity to your point that the author's presentation suffers excess verbosity, I'm not too worried about it because the linked slides seem more meant to act as a reference document than an example of a good presentation, and the level of text is just fine for that purpose.

eugenevinitsky 6mo ago
Yeah I’m the author, this was a joke. I also wanted to convey to the students in the room that this was not a high quality presentation, more so text just converted into presentation form.
- DonaldPShimoda 6mo ago
  Seemed pretty clear to me, for what it's worth, but perhaps it is less obvious to those not steeped in similar traditions of academia. Thanks for this, by the way! It's a lovely resource!

magiclaw 6mo ago

I always thought this was funny. We were taught this in grad school, but hardly anybody followed this guideline. "If there's too much text on the slide, the audience will be busy reading the slide, and not paying attention to you". I try to have just the main point on the slide, then I can talk around it. The details should be in the slide notes, if you need reminders.

jgeada 6mo ago

There are presentations that you actually present to an audience, to which this point is valid. But lots of presentations, including this one I think, are merely used as a means of conveying information (yeah, not my favorite way of doing so, but being a contrarian doesn't do anybody's career any good), and those are indeed intended to be read and need to have explicitly all the information that you otherwise would be speaking and addressing.

collabs 6mo ago

My guess is probably there is a difference between slides used for presentation and slides used for reading myself alone

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