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>it at least is something that happens as part of a judicial process Only sort of, because some countries have very weird ideas of what a "judicial process" is

by _osud 7mo ago

>it at least is something that happens as part of a judicial process Only sort of, because some countries have very weird ideas of what a "judicial process" is. >I'm certainly more comfortable with it than being subject to the whims of the US government and its 3 letter agencies. That's fair, but I think it's a mistake. In the worst case the European system grants a village cop in another country the authority to conduct extremely intrusive surveillance on you. Criminals can easily co-opt this system and steal your crypto or whatever, a far more realistic threat for most people than the NSA.

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surgical_fire 7mo ago
> That's fair, but I think it's a mistake I obviously don't share the sentiment. > village cop in another country the authority to conduct extremely intrusive surveillance on you. > far more realistic threat for most people than the NSA. If you think some policeman in a rural Frech village is a bigger threat to your freedom than NSA or other 3-letter agencies from the USA, we can all see who is mistaken in evaluating threats. > Criminals can easily co-opt this system and steal your crypto or whatever I don't want to say anything, I just wanted to highlight this bit because it made me giggle.
- _osud 7mo ago
  >If you think some policeman in a rural Frech village is a bigger threat to your freedom than NSA or other 3-letter agencies from the USA, we can all see who is mistaken in evaluating threats. Just like the random mugger on the streets of Paris is a far bigger threat to my life and limb than the US with their drones. You're talking from an ideological perspective, I'm looking at this from a rather more practical angle. It's very possible that your line of thinking leads to a better outcome than mine, or perhaps it doesn't. >I don't want to say anything, I just wanted to highlight this bit because it made me giggle. It's really not that funny, cryptocurrency thieves have been bribing cops to rob people at gunpoint https://krebsonsecurity.com/2024/09/crooked-cops-stolen-laptops-the-ghost-of-ugnazi/ https://krebsonsecurity.com/2024/09/crooked-cops-stolen-lapt... Now you can bribe a village cop in Hungary or Romania, and have the French cops do your bidding. This is totally gonna end well!
  - surgical_fire 7mo ago
    > You're talking from an ideological perspective Given your participation in this whole discussion, that was pretty cute. There nothing else here even worth addressing. This conversation is a waste of time, for both of us. Have a wonderful rest of your day.
    - _osud 7mo ago
      Having been personally touched by this, I see this as an entirely practical and not ideological issue. It's harder for me to worry about the NSA than people who have already negatively impacted me in the past.

by _osud 7mo ago

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surgical_fire 7mo ago

> That's fair, but I think it's a mistake I obviously don't share the sentiment. > village cop in another country the authority to conduct extremely intrusive surveillance on you. > far more realistic threat for most people than the NSA. If you think some policeman in a rural Frech village is a bigger threat to your freedom than NSA or other 3-letter agencies from the USA, we can all see who is mistaken in evaluating threats. > Criminals can easily co-opt this system and steal your crypto or whatever I don't want to say anything, I just wanted to highlight this bit because it made me giggle.

_osud 7mo ago
>If you think some policeman in a rural Frech village is a bigger threat to your freedom than NSA or other 3-letter agencies from the USA, we can all see who is mistaken in evaluating threats. Just like the random mugger on the streets of Paris is a far bigger threat to my life and limb than the US with their drones. You're talking from an ideological perspective, I'm looking at this from a rather more practical angle. It's very possible that your line of thinking leads to a better outcome than mine, or perhaps it doesn't. >I don't want to say anything, I just wanted to highlight this bit because it made me giggle. It's really not that funny, cryptocurrency thieves have been bribing cops to rob people at gunpoint https://krebsonsecurity.com/2024/09/crooked-cops-stolen-laptops-the-ghost-of-ugnazi/ https://krebsonsecurity.com/2024/09/crooked-cops-stolen-lapt... Now you can bribe a village cop in Hungary or Romania, and have the French cops do your bidding. This is totally gonna end well!
- surgical_fire 7mo ago
  > You're talking from an ideological perspective Given your participation in this whole discussion, that was pretty cute. There nothing else here even worth addressing. This conversation is a waste of time, for both of us. Have a wonderful rest of your day.
  - _osud 7mo ago
    Having been personally touched by this, I see this as an entirely practical and not ideological issue. It's harder for me to worry about the NSA than people who have already negatively impacted me in the past.