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Some of these European countries such as France are quite authoritarian. They frequently pass (update: propose/push for) laws to ban VPN and even social media,

by aborsy 7mo ago

Some of these European countries such as France are quite authoritarian. They frequently pass (update: propose/push for) laws to ban VPN and even social media, request access to private messages, etc. It seems to me the situation is equally bad in EU.

9dev 7mo ago
You have no idea what you are talking about, really. We don’t "frequently" pass such laws. Nobody is accessing private messages, even if there have been such attempts. The EU has still the strongest privacy laws world wide, and in contrast to others a strong ethical foundation. It may be slow, it may be torn, it may be overly beaurocratic, but sure enough not authoritarian.
- antievropean 7mo ago
  Two words: chat control
  - Aldipower 7mo ago
    Defeated! (At least for now...)
  - prmoustache 7mo ago
    https://www.brusselstimes.com/eu-affairs/2030171/end-of-chat-control-controversial-eu-legislation-on-online-child-protection-up-in-the-air https://www.brusselstimes.com/eu-affairs/2030171/end-of-chat...
- mytailorisrich 7mo ago
  France is routinely criticised for its police, justice system, and rule of law [1]. In general only the French believe that they are a shining beacon. [1] https://worldjusticeproject.org/rule-of-law-index/country/France https://worldjusticeproject.org/rule-of-law-index/country/Fr...
  - prmoustache 7mo ago
    I don't think the french as a whole believe that. A lot of people in France are highly critical of the way the current government (and how it is more and more far right leaning) has been handling things in the last decade. There is a big issue of the police forces syndicates being highly far right biased which doesn't help. Like many countries, it is not homogeneous.
    - mytailorisrich 7mo ago
      None of the issues highlighted are because of the last decade of any alleged "far right leaning". In fact things have probably improved compared to a few decades ago.
- aborsy 7mo ago
  https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47522709 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47522709

by aborsy 7mo ago

9dev 7mo ago

You have no idea what you are talking about, really. We don’t "frequently" pass such laws. Nobody is accessing private messages, even if there have been such attempts. The EU has still the strongest privacy laws world wide, and in contrast to others a strong ethical foundation. It may be slow, it may be torn, it may be overly beaurocratic, but sure enough not authoritarian.

antievropean 7mo ago
Two words: chat control
- Aldipower 7mo ago
  Defeated! (At least for now...)
- prmoustache 7mo ago
  https://www.brusselstimes.com/eu-affairs/2030171/end-of-chat-control-controversial-eu-legislation-on-online-child-protection-up-in-the-air https://www.brusselstimes.com/eu-affairs/2030171/end-of-chat...
mytailorisrich 7mo ago
France is routinely criticised for its police, justice system, and rule of law [1]. In general only the French believe that they are a shining beacon. [1] https://worldjusticeproject.org/rule-of-law-index/country/France https://worldjusticeproject.org/rule-of-law-index/country/Fr...
- prmoustache 7mo ago
  I don't think the french as a whole believe that. A lot of people in France are highly critical of the way the current government (and how it is more and more far right leaning) has been handling things in the last decade. There is a big issue of the police forces syndicates being highly far right biased which doesn't help. Like many countries, it is not homogeneous.
  - mytailorisrich 7mo ago
    None of the issues highlighted are because of the last decade of any alleged "far right leaning". In fact things have probably improved compared to a few decades ago.
aborsy 7mo ago
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47522709 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47522709