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This comes to mind how during the Boeing news scandals, commenters would confidently argue "Flying is still ridiculously safe, statistically speaking", "these t

by calf 7mo ago

This comes to mind how during the Boeing news scandals, commenters would confidently argue "Flying is still ridiculously safe, statistically speaking", "these things happen every day, just underreported", and "you/people are irrational for not flying Boeing". It's a very curious argument to me. Is the ATC infrastructure issue analogous or not, etc.

actionfromafar 7mo ago
It is strange. What is importa t is, are things getting better or getting worse? As they say, it’s not the fall that kills, bit the impact. Are we falling?
kakacik 7mo ago
Maybe US media, hardly an unbiased news source about US events, especially when hundreds of billions are flying around about incompetent massive employer and lobbyist. Nowhere else in the world you would hear such statements. Boeings simply disappeared from Europe, those few that were here before. I am sure they are still used somewhere but I haven't flown any in past 7-8 years. Heck, I haven't seen any in South east Asia neither (but that may be due to luck). I check this with all bookings, no way I am flying that piece of shit if I can anyhow avoid that, not alone and quadruple that with family.
- krisoft 7mo ago
  > Boeings simply disappeared from Europe That is just simply false. There are many boeings flying in europe. Just by randomly clicking around on flightradar24 I found multiple right now in the air.
  - patrickmcnamara 7mo ago
    Ryanair are the biggest airline in Europe and they exclusively fly Boeing 737s.
LaffertyDev 7mo ago
You can view the actual data and control for your own recency bias one way or the other. I see data from 2005 - 2024 trivially accessible. https://www.ntsb.gov/safety/Pages/research.aspx https://www.ntsb.gov/safety/Pages/research.aspx
mememememememo 7mo ago
You can have both. I.e. complain about safety breaches, push to get back on track safety wise, but still decide to fly as it is safe enough. Guess it is being practical.

by calf 7mo ago

actionfromafar 7mo ago

It is strange. What is importa t is, are things getting better or getting worse? As they say, it’s not the fall that kills, bit the impact. Are we falling?

kakacik 7mo ago

Maybe US media, hardly an unbiased news source about US events, especially when hundreds of billions are flying around about incompetent massive employer and lobbyist. Nowhere else in the world you would hear such statements. Boeings simply disappeared from Europe, those few that were here before. I am sure they are still used somewhere but I haven't flown any in past 7-8 years. Heck, I haven't seen any in South east Asia neither (but that may be due to luck). I check this with all bookings, no way I am flying that piece of shit if I can anyhow avoid that, not alone and quadruple that with family.

krisoft 7mo ago
> Boeings simply disappeared from Europe That is just simply false. There are many boeings flying in europe. Just by randomly clicking around on flightradar24 I found multiple right now in the air.
- patrickmcnamara 7mo ago
  Ryanair are the biggest airline in Europe and they exclusively fly Boeing 737s.

LaffertyDev 7mo ago

You can view the actual data and control for your own recency bias one way or the other. I see data from 2005 - 2024 trivially accessible. https://www.ntsb.gov/safety/Pages/research.aspx https://www.ntsb.gov/safety/Pages/research.aspx

mememememememo 7mo ago

You can have both. I.e. complain about safety breaches, push to get back on track safety wise, but still decide to fly as it is safe enough. Guess it is being practical.