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> business hires three teams? Yes. The web's winning feature is "it works everywhere". If your app doesn't work for the wealthiest 50% of users, why go that ro

> business hires three teams? Yes. The web's winning feature is "it works everywhere". If your app doesn't work for the wealthiest 50% of users, why go that route? Making a desktop web app work on mobile, just for Android, is a lot of work. It needs to work on both iOS and Android to make it worthwhile. > they all depend on full desktop browser to work (often due to sheer fact that they are complex apps that don't work well on mobile screens) Gmail, Office, Docs - they all exist on mobile (as native apps). So it's not the complexity itself that makes it a problem on mobile screens. What does the native Gmail app do that the desktop web app doesn't? > Android's market share is 68-70% worldwide. Not in the wealthiest parts of the world, where the money is.

troupo 7mo ago
> Yes. > If your app doesn't work for the wealthiest 50% of users, why go that route? Why doesn't business hire two teams? One for the amazing native-like PWA, and one for iOS? > Making a desktop web app work on mobile, just for Android, is a lot of work. More work than hiring a separate Android team? More work than hiring a team to create a PWA which we've heard continuously for the past 10 years is amazingly easy and native-like? > Gmail, Office, Docs - they all exist on mobile (as native apps). S Yes, yes they do. As native apps > Not in the wealthiest parts of the world, where the money is. In 10 years you'd think we'd see actual examples of these amazing fast native-like PWAs on Android. All we hear is excuses. Funnily enough I know of a few. E.g. Foodora's web app is surprisingly good, and it's possible that their "native" app is just running inside a webview, since it's indistibguishable from their website. But even MORE funnily enough, it takes a PWA sceptic to spot good PWA apps when none of the PWA proponents can point to a good PWA to save their life.
- rejhgadellaa 6mo ago
  >> If your app doesn't work for the wealthiest 50% of users, why go that route? > Why doesn't business hire two teams? One for the amazing native-like PWA, and one for iOS? You quote me, but missed the exact part where I already answered that question (I presume by accident ;)), so I'll just repeat myself: > Yes. The web's winning feature is "it works everywhere". If your app doesn't work for the wealthiest 50% of users, why go that route? Making a desktop web app work on mobile, just for Android, is a lot of work. It needs to work on both iOS and Android to make it worthwhile. For background, this piece by Alex Russell is worth reading: Platform Adjacency Theory https://infrequently.org/2020/06/platform-adjacency-theory/ https://infrequently.org/2020/06/platform-adjacency-theory/

troupo 7mo ago

> Yes. > If your app doesn't work for the wealthiest 50% of users, why go that route? Why doesn't business hire two teams? One for the amazing native-like PWA, and one for iOS? > Making a desktop web app work on mobile, just for Android, is a lot of work. More work than hiring a separate Android team? More work than hiring a team to create a PWA which we've heard continuously for the past 10 years is amazingly easy and native-like? > Gmail, Office, Docs - they all exist on mobile (as native apps). S Yes, yes they do. As native apps > Not in the wealthiest parts of the world, where the money is. In 10 years you'd think we'd see actual examples of these amazing fast native-like PWAs on Android. All we hear is excuses. Funnily enough I know of a few. E.g. Foodora's web app is surprisingly good, and it's possible that their "native" app is just running inside a webview, since it's indistibguishable from their website. But even MORE funnily enough, it takes a PWA sceptic to spot good PWA apps when none of the PWA proponents can point to a good PWA to save their life.

rejhgadellaa 6mo ago
>> If your app doesn't work for the wealthiest 50% of users, why go that route? > Why doesn't business hire two teams? One for the amazing native-like PWA, and one for iOS? You quote me, but missed the exact part where I already answered that question (I presume by accident ;)), so I'll just repeat myself: > Yes. The web's winning feature is "it works everywhere". If your app doesn't work for the wealthiest 50% of users, why go that route? Making a desktop web app work on mobile, just for Android, is a lot of work. It needs to work on both iOS and Android to make it worthwhile. For background, this piece by Alex Russell is worth reading: Platform Adjacency Theory https://infrequently.org/2020/06/platform-adjacency-theory/ https://infrequently.org/2020/06/platform-adjacency-theory/