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The U.S. government shutdown has halted pay to the TSA, but not ICE, so ICE is taking over from the TSA in airports[1]. If you fly to the U.S., starting Monday
by beloch 7mo ago
The U.S. government shutdown has halted pay to the TSA, but not ICE, so ICE is taking over from the TSA in airports[1]. If you fly to the U.S., starting Monday apparently, the first think you're likely to see is masked gunmen giving you the eye.
No thankyou.
[1]https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cede0qyvqz3o https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cede0qyvqz3o
- bdangubic 7mo ago[flagged]
- ohyoutravel 7mo agoTSA is mostly people who want a job and act pretty professionally in the hundreds or thousand times I’ve encountered them. ICE encourages people with anger issues who hate brown people to apply. These are not the same.
- bdangubic 7mo agoit isn’t about people and which group is mostly this or that. Americans have long accepted to have their Constitutional Rights violated at the airports so it really doesn’t matter if it is TSA or ICE or whatever three-letter gang runs it
- andrewflnr 7mo agoThis is binary thinking that has no place in predicting the real world. In practice, the specific person violating your constitutional rights makes a big difference in how badly your rights are violated.
- bdangubic 7mo agooh I love this… so good! like OK to violate me a little but don’t but know where to draw the line. this is like an excuse of a chronic domestic abuser, “I slapped her/him around a little but did not slam/her against a wall”
- andrewflnr 7mo agoStill doing it. No one said either level of abuse was ok.
- taneq 7mo agoI feel like "form your own private paramilitary organisation with minimal oversight, then expand their reach by having them take over the operations of other government departments" has been done before somewhere, as part of a larger plan.
- nclin_ 7mo agoThis is a historical pattern: Bringing border forces to bear against your own population, because those border forces are trained to deal with people who don't have the rights of the state.
- encrypted_bird 7mo agoIt has. (Unless you're being sarcastic, in which case I'm not surprised it went over my head. Lol.)
- ajkjk 7mo agoof course they were
- encrypted_bird 7mo agoHey, tone doesn't translate well over text, they did not use anu tone tags, and I'm already terrible at reading tone in the best of times. Lol, can you really blame me for at least asking? Haha.
- ajkjk 7mo agoI dunno, it is the most obvious nazi reference I've ever seen. Personally I feel like tone does translate well over text, although it's proportional to the speakers' familiarity in how to do it whereas for verbal communication it comes through without effort. Nothing wrong with asking of course. But maybe it's useful data that it was, in fact, obvious.
- encrypted_bird 7mo ago
- nandomrumber 7mo agoWould anyone argue that the TSA, Theatre Security Agency, shouldn’t be defunded?
- hmmokidk 7mo agoThis isn’t that.
- tombert 7mo agoThere's an argument for that, though I think replacing it with Trump's basically-unregulated private military is pretty concerning.
- Macha 7mo agoReplacing it with nothing in an orderly fashion? Probably a good move. Replacing them with ICE as a political gesture? Not so much
- deleted 7mo ago[deleted]
- derf_ 7mo agoThe TSA is responsible for more than just airports. As someone with family who works (worked) on port security in the maritime division, I would argue that Chesterton's Fence [0] applies here just as much as anywhere else. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G._K._Chesterton#Chesterton's_fence https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G._K._Chesterton#Chesterton's_...
- rendaw 7mo agoPorts had no security before 2001? What does TSA do there?
- 5555624 7mo agoThe Coast Guard has long been responsible for port security. TSA does administer TWIC, the Transportation Worker Identification Credential program, which is a biometric identification system go access to secure port facilities.
- AceJohnny2 7mo ago> So ICE is taking over from the TSA in airports It's even more disgusting than that: "Tom Homan: ICE officers will not assist with airport security scanning amid TSA staffing shortage" https://thehill.com/policy/transportation/5795316-homan-ice-tsa-plan-dhs-shutdown/ https://thehill.com/policy/transportation/5795316-homan-ice-...
- bananalychee 7mo agoI can't tell what's supposed to be disgusting about this unless you stopped reading past the inflammatory headline.
- fundad 7mo agoEnter the country and you interact with CBP and that hasn't changed. CBP agents are the ones who murdered the legal observers in Minneapolis so there's that. TSA checks bags for commercial airlines which is a service that should never have been nationalized.
- diego_moita 7mo agoIt will be so much fun to watch the World Cup from outside the US...
- SSLy 7mo agoRemember to use a pirate stream.
- diego_moita 7mo agoYeah! That will be even better!