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It's not just "PC Gamer" but people making decisions behind as always. Three first people from their "Meet the Team" page [0]: Tim Clark — Brand Director (@timo

It's not just "PC Gamer" but people making decisions behind as always. Three first people from their "Meet the Team" page [0]: Tim Clark — Brand Director (@timothydclark), Evan Lahti - Strategic Director (@elahti), Phil Savage — Global Editor-in-Chief (@Octaeder). Hopefully they can see this HN thread and people complains and do "something" about that. [0] https://www.pcgamer.com/meet-the-team/ https://www.pcgamer.com/meet-the-team/

casey2 7mo ago
The people writing the article, the people designing the site and the people slapping ads on it all work for PC gamer. You aren't saying anything that everybody doesn't already know, the point is that they are all prisoners unable to act with their free will.
- shermantanktop 7mo ago
  Theres a huge difference between naming a company and naming individuals. That said, I’ve had to work on projects that I’m not 100% proud of. I’ve had the companies I work for get complained about and in a few cases I had to work on the thing that was being complained about. It’s hard to argue with a balance sheet.
neya 7mo ago
I have professionally dealt with these types of people in my career (not these exact 3) in similar settings and I can tell you - they don't care. They care only about revenue numbers. You can walk up to them, show them this article and even this HN thread and their first question will be "how does it affect our revenue?" They don't see it as money made through ripping off users without their consent - they think they are entitled to that money. Anything that leads to less money in the name of usability, transparency and honesty is just met with a shrug. To them, the author of the article and the rest of us are just rambling developers who don't understand how businesses work. And they are the gold standard (they think so) for business ethics. So tell me again, do you really think they will do "something" about that?
- sef6i2dhhj 7mo ago
  I have worked professionally with those 3 and I can tell you they do care, but they don't make the decisions at Future.
- plasticbugs 7mo ago
  I personally know two of the three people named, and trust me, they are going to be livid about this.
  - albedoa 7mo ago
    > trust me, they are going to be livid about this. Just as soon as...what? How are two of the top three people named on the "Meet the team" page simultaneously oblivious to the half gig of ad downloads and on the verge of caring? Forgive us for not trusting you on this.
    - carlosjobim 7mo ago
      You're not any kind of "us". You are just a single person, like me and everybody else here. Of course they can be - and probably are - unknowing of some erroneous code in one of their thousands of articles.
      - albedoa 7mo ago
        [flagged]
  - rrgok 7mo ago
    How is "them being livid" is gonna help revenue?
- parineum 7mo ago
  > I have professionally dealt with these types of people in my career (not these exact 3) in similar settings and I can tell you - they don't care Prejudicial and cynical, nice.
- 7mo ago

casey2 7mo ago

The people writing the article, the people designing the site and the people slapping ads on it all work for PC gamer. You aren't saying anything that everybody doesn't already know, the point is that they are all prisoners unable to act with their free will.

shermantanktop 7mo ago
Theres a huge difference between naming a company and naming individuals. That said, I’ve had to work on projects that I’m not 100% proud of. I’ve had the companies I work for get complained about and in a few cases I had to work on the thing that was being complained about. It’s hard to argue with a balance sheet.

neya 7mo ago

I have professionally dealt with these types of people in my career (not these exact 3) in similar settings and I can tell you - they don't care. They care only about revenue numbers. You can walk up to them, show them this article and even this HN thread and their first question will be "how does it affect our revenue?" They don't see it as money made through ripping off users without their consent - they think they are entitled to that money. Anything that leads to less money in the name of usability, transparency and honesty is just met with a shrug. To them, the author of the article and the rest of us are just rambling developers who don't understand how businesses work. And they are the gold standard (they think so) for business ethics. So tell me again, do you really think they will do "something" about that?

sef6i2dhhj 7mo ago
I have worked professionally with those 3 and I can tell you they do care, but they don't make the decisions at Future.
plasticbugs 7mo ago
I personally know two of the three people named, and trust me, they are going to be livid about this.
- albedoa 7mo ago
  > trust me, they are going to be livid about this. Just as soon as...what? How are two of the top three people named on the "Meet the team" page simultaneously oblivious to the half gig of ad downloads and on the verge of caring? Forgive us for not trusting you on this.
  - carlosjobim 7mo ago
    You're not any kind of "us". You are just a single person, like me and everybody else here. Of course they can be - and probably are - unknowing of some erroneous code in one of their thousands of articles.
    - albedoa 7mo ago
      [flagged]
- rrgok 7mo ago
  How is "them being livid" is gonna help revenue?
parineum 7mo ago
> I have professionally dealt with these types of people in my career (not these exact 3) in similar settings and I can tell you - they don't care Prejudicial and cynical, nice.
7mo ago