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I'm trying to migrate to 100% RSS right now, to avoid the hateful algorithmic editorialization of modern social media. And I'm shocked that almost no paid medi

I'm trying to migrate to 100% RSS right now, to avoid the hateful algorithmic editorialization of modern social media. And I'm shocked that almost no paid media provides full articles in RSS anymore, and force me to navigate their 37MB pages with popups all over the place. Has anyone found a solution against that ? Edit : Sorry I'm asking specifically about paywalled stuff

righthand 7mo ago
Reader mode + ad blocker
- bryancoxwell 7mo ago
  Further: configure reader mode as the default for the sites you’re most commonly linked to.
impure 7mo ago
There are readers with a 'full text mode' which will fetch the website and display it in something like Mozilla's Readability view. It does not always work, especially if the page is paywalled but it works for most sites.
- goldenarm 7mo ago
  Most quality journals are paywalled nowadays, I'm considering to scrape using my cookie, or maybe use archive.is..
  - 1bpp 7mo ago
    For a lot of sites Firefox's reader mode is great at bypassing paywalls, just turn it on & refresh
  - hedora 7mo ago
    If you're paying, there's probably a way to get a RSS feed for paid subscribers. If you can't find it, maybe email tech support? This is how all the podcasts I donate to work (they offer ad-free feeds, bonus episodes, etc, usually with some url like https://rss.podcastsite.com/show?token=<random code>, and then in my podcast app, it either says "Some show - Paid feed", or sometimes "Some show - your name's feed".
themafia 7mo ago
> no paid media provides full articles in RSS anymore Substack does and it's first class. Patreon does a decent job.
- specproc 7mo ago
  Not an RSS solution, also relies on US-based third parties.
  - hedora 7mo ago
    From TFM: > You can find the RSS feed for your publication at https://your.substack.com/feed. https://your.substack.com/feed. > Replace "your" with the name of your Substack publication.
mrweasel 7mo ago
Disable Javascript or use Lynx, Links or Dillo to open the articles from your newsreader. Some pages won't work obviously, you remove those from your feed.
- goodmythical 7mo ago
  no love for elinks?
dbtc 7mo ago
Maybe not considered a solution, but: print.
- deleted 7mo ago
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colesantiago 7mo ago
Pay for the web or print edition? Journalists need to eat as well as you do. The more people aren't supporting journalists weather in Substack or Reuters, the more articles that will be behind a paywall. It's such a shame as well since AI is also constantly bypassing and scraping RSS for business and commercial purposes, violating licenses.
- Marsymars 7mo ago
  I don't think the complaint is that RSS doesn't get around paywalls, it's that even if you pay, many publications don't offer full-text RSS.
  - colesantiago 7mo ago
    Because AI bots will scrape the full text RSS.
    - Marsymars 7mo ago
      How is a web page with the full text more resistant to that than an RSS feed with the full text?
      - colesantiago 7mo ago
        Some RSS feeds have the full text and are transitioning users to the full content on the web page. RSS scraping is just 100x easier and some publications have taken notice. I've seen some publications are transitioning to extreme hard paywalls and are even harder to scrape.
timthowtdi 7mo ago
I use the iOS app of https://brutalist.report https://brutalist.report for this these days.
PlunderBunny 7mo ago
Lighthouse can sometimes find RSS feeds for pages that don’t show an RSS button on the page: https://lighthouseapp.io/tools/feed-finder https://lighthouseapp.io/tools/feed-finder
colechristensen 7mo ago
I have thought of this, and I have thoughts about the ethics of this. In my spare time I'm developing a web RSS reader and considering effectively a Spotify model where users optionally have a paid subscription that is shared to article publishers to address the ethics of simply free stripping of ads as a service. I'd like it to be an optional paywall but haven't decided how to move forward
perardi 7mo ago
> Edit : Sorry I'm asking specifically about paywalled stuff Ah, you mean, like the NYTimes RSS feed. The NYTimes (and other paywall sites) only render the headline and one-sentence article summary. Like this: > Not All Malls Are Struggling > A certain type of shopping mall has become a surprising bright spot for real estate investors. You do not…please correct me if I’m wrong…and cannot get a full-text RSS feed from the Times. Or Slate. Or [insert legacy media company here]. Which is deeply frustrating. It’s obviously a way to cut off the most blatant way for a bot to scrape the site, but c’mon, please, media tech teams, we can make private subscription RSS feeds work for podcasts, we can make it work for news. Your most engaged and nerdy and tech literate customers will go for it. In lieu of that, I use Safari, and I have it set to automatically pop into Reader mode (https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/hide-distractions-when-reading-iphdc30e3b86/ios https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/hide-distractions-whe...) when I hit certain websites. While I would prefer to read my news in NetNewsWire, hitting a de-shittified reader view in Safari is a decent fallback.
Marsymars 7mo ago
I just don't pay for sites that don't offer full-text RSS (or email newsletters, for some sites) for subscribers.
bryanhogan 7mo ago
You can get the main content of a page as markdown via something like https://defuddle.md/ https://defuddle.md/ I sometimes read things via Feeder (the Android app) and there I can also pull in some content, even things that aren't included in the original RSS.
4k93n2 7mo ago
i think rsshub can help with this, but im not 100% sure. its something you have to self host yourself, or pay a service like pikapods to run it for you

righthand 7mo ago

Reader mode + ad blocker

bryancoxwell 7mo ago
Further: configure reader mode as the default for the sites you’re most commonly linked to.

impure 7mo ago

There are readers with a 'full text mode' which will fetch the website and display it in something like Mozilla's Readability view. It does not always work, especially if the page is paywalled but it works for most sites.

goldenarm 7mo ago
Most quality journals are paywalled nowadays, I'm considering to scrape using my cookie, or maybe use archive.is..
- 1bpp 7mo ago
  For a lot of sites Firefox's reader mode is great at bypassing paywalls, just turn it on & refresh
- hedora 7mo ago
  If you're paying, there's probably a way to get a RSS feed for paid subscribers. If you can't find it, maybe email tech support? This is how all the podcasts I donate to work (they offer ad-free feeds, bonus episodes, etc, usually with some url like https://rss.podcastsite.com/show?token=<random code>, and then in my podcast app, it either says "Some show - Paid feed", or sometimes "Some show - your name's feed".

themafia 7mo ago

> no paid media provides full articles in RSS anymore Substack does and it's first class. Patreon does a decent job.

specproc 7mo ago
Not an RSS solution, also relies on US-based third parties.
- hedora 7mo ago
  From TFM: > You can find the RSS feed for your publication at https://your.substack.com/feed. https://your.substack.com/feed. > Replace "your" with the name of your Substack publication.

mrweasel 7mo ago

Disable Javascript or use Lynx, Links or Dillo to open the articles from your newsreader. Some pages won't work obviously, you remove those from your feed.

goodmythical 7mo ago
no love for elinks?

dbtc 7mo ago

Maybe not considered a solution, but: print.

deleted 7mo ago
[deleted]

colesantiago 7mo ago

Pay for the web or print edition? Journalists need to eat as well as you do. The more people aren't supporting journalists weather in Substack or Reuters, the more articles that will be behind a paywall. It's such a shame as well since AI is also constantly bypassing and scraping RSS for business and commercial purposes, violating licenses.

Marsymars 7mo ago
I don't think the complaint is that RSS doesn't get around paywalls, it's that even if you pay, many publications don't offer full-text RSS.
- colesantiago 7mo ago
  Because AI bots will scrape the full text RSS.
  - Marsymars 7mo ago
    How is a web page with the full text more resistant to that than an RSS feed with the full text?
    - colesantiago 7mo ago
      Some RSS feeds have the full text and are transitioning users to the full content on the web page. RSS scraping is just 100x easier and some publications have taken notice. I've seen some publications are transitioning to extreme hard paywalls and are even harder to scrape.

timthowtdi 7mo ago

I use the iOS app of https://brutalist.report https://brutalist.report for this these days.

PlunderBunny 7mo ago

Lighthouse can sometimes find RSS feeds for pages that don’t show an RSS button on the page: https://lighthouseapp.io/tools/feed-finder https://lighthouseapp.io/tools/feed-finder

colechristensen 7mo ago

I have thought of this, and I have thoughts about the ethics of this. In my spare time I'm developing a web RSS reader and considering effectively a Spotify model where users optionally have a paid subscription that is shared to article publishers to address the ethics of simply free stripping of ads as a service. I'd like it to be an optional paywall but haven't decided how to move forward

perardi 7mo ago

> Edit : Sorry I'm asking specifically about paywalled stuff Ah, you mean, like the NYTimes RSS feed. The NYTimes (and other paywall sites) only render the headline and one-sentence article summary. Like this: > Not All Malls Are Struggling > A certain type of shopping mall has become a surprising bright spot for real estate investors. You do not…please correct me if I’m wrong…and cannot get a full-text RSS feed from the Times. Or Slate. Or [insert legacy media company here]. Which is deeply frustrating. It’s obviously a way to cut off the most blatant way for a bot to scrape the site, but c’mon, please, media tech teams, we can make private subscription RSS feeds work for podcasts, we can make it work for news. Your most engaged and nerdy and tech literate customers will go for it. In lieu of that, I use Safari, and I have it set to automatically pop into Reader mode (https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/hide-distractions-when-reading-iphdc30e3b86/ios https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/hide-distractions-whe...) when I hit certain websites. While I would prefer to read my news in NetNewsWire, hitting a de-shittified reader view in Safari is a decent fallback.

Marsymars 7mo ago

I just don't pay for sites that don't offer full-text RSS (or email newsletters, for some sites) for subscribers.

bryanhogan 7mo ago

You can get the main content of a page as markdown via something like https://defuddle.md/ https://defuddle.md/ I sometimes read things via Feeder (the Android app) and there I can also pull in some content, even things that aren't included in the original RSS.

4k93n2 7mo ago

i think rsshub can help with this, but im not 100% sure. its something you have to self host yourself, or pay a service like pikapods to run it for you