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There’s nothing wrong with it that I can see. Like I said, I’m a bit baffled at your experience. I will say, it’s not unusual for the initial output not to comp

by wrs 7mo ago

There’s nothing wrong with it that I can see. Like I said, I’m a bit baffled at your experience. I will say, it’s not unusual for the initial output not to compile, but usually one short iteration later that’s fixed. Claude Code will usually even do that iteration by itself.

maccard 7mo ago
> I will say, it’s not unusual for the initial output not to compile, We’ve gone from “I’m baffled at your experience” to well yeah it often fails” in two sentences here…
- saulpw 7mo ago
  It's not unusual for my initial output (as a programmer) not to compile either. I wouldn't say I "failed" if I can then get it to compile. Which as people are saying, is what happens with Claude Code and Opus, either automatically or at most when I say "get it to compile".
  - maccard 7mo ago
    But when it doesn’t compile for me, I don’t claim it’s finished.
    - saulpw 7mo ago
      Something is really wrong with your setup and I can't tell what it is from these high-level descriptions. Would you be willing to hop on a videochat and walk through this simple case? I'd be really curious to figure out what's going on, it's pretty atypical.
- wrs 7mo ago
  Hmm…if you’re giving only one prompt to Claude Code, and allowing it only one output, then I’m no longer baffled at why you’re not getting good results. That’s not how it works. (That’s not how it works when I write code myself, either!)
  - maccard 7mo ago
    I mean, I don’t know how much less scope I can give it. The next step is writing the 5 lines of code I want it to write. I also clearly said I didn’t allow it one output, I gave it the compile error message, it changed a different line, I told it it was at the affected line and to check the docs. Claude code then tried to query the DLL for the function, abandoned that and then did something else incorrect. I’m literally asking it to install a package and copy the example from the readme
    - wrs 7mo ago
      I understand (and don’t know what to say beyond “that’s weird”). I was just reacting to your equating “the first try sometimes doesn’t compile” with “it often fails”. That’s only a failure if you stop at that point.
      - maccard 7mo ago
        In the first comment you’ll see that it didn’t compile, I prompted to fix it and eventually fixed it myself. When I asked it to proceed to the next task it blew away my fix and left it in a broken state.

by wrs 7mo ago

maccard 7mo ago

> I will say, it’s not unusual for the initial output not to compile, We’ve gone from “I’m baffled at your experience” to well yeah it often fails” in two sentences here…

saulpw 7mo ago
It's not unusual for my initial output (as a programmer) not to compile either. I wouldn't say I "failed" if I can then get it to compile. Which as people are saying, is what happens with Claude Code and Opus, either automatically or at most when I say "get it to compile".
- maccard 7mo ago
  But when it doesn’t compile for me, I don’t claim it’s finished.
  - saulpw 7mo ago
    Something is really wrong with your setup and I can't tell what it is from these high-level descriptions. Would you be willing to hop on a videochat and walk through this simple case? I'd be really curious to figure out what's going on, it's pretty atypical.
wrs 7mo ago
Hmm…if you’re giving only one prompt to Claude Code, and allowing it only one output, then I’m no longer baffled at why you’re not getting good results. That’s not how it works. (That’s not how it works when I write code myself, either!)
- maccard 7mo ago
  I mean, I don’t know how much less scope I can give it. The next step is writing the 5 lines of code I want it to write. I also clearly said I didn’t allow it one output, I gave it the compile error message, it changed a different line, I told it it was at the affected line and to check the docs. Claude code then tried to query the DLL for the function, abandoned that and then did something else incorrect. I’m literally asking it to install a package and copy the example from the readme
  - wrs 7mo ago
    I understand (and don’t know what to say beyond “that’s weird”). I was just reacting to your equating “the first try sometimes doesn’t compile” with “it often fails”. That’s only a failure if you stop at that point.
    - maccard 7mo ago
      In the first comment you’ll see that it didn’t compile, I prompted to fix it and eventually fixed it myself. When I asked it to proceed to the next task it blew away my fix and left it in a broken state.