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I notice you're not critical of Iran's military intentionally firing on civilians. Why?

applfanboysbgon 7mo ago
Because that was not the subject of the conversation. Iran's military killing civilians is bad, but that does not somehow justify also killing their civilians. WTF even is your logic?
- trimethylpurine 7mo ago
  It certainly doesn't justify killing civilians.
- mhb 7mo ago
  The US made a mistake while attempting to ensure that insane theocrats who are close to building nuclear weapons are not able to. The fondest wish of the religious lunatics in charge of Iran (and we know this because they have told us) is to annihilate the US and Israel. They have demonstrated missiles that can reach Europe. These dots don't seem hard to connect.
  - applfanboysbgon 7mo ago
    > who are close to building nuclear weapons This is a lie. Not only is it not the stated purpose of the war, even Netanyahu himself went out of the way to say that Iran had no remaining capability to accomplish this and that was not why they were invaded. > They currently have demonstrated missiles that can reach Europe. The US demonstrated its missiles can reach schools in Iran. Why are we more concerned with scaremongering about what hypothetical evil acts Iran could commit while downplaying the evil acts that are actually being propagated by the US?
    - mhb 7mo ago
      The war has multiple goals. > Why are we more concerned with scaremongering about what hypothetical evil acts Iran could commit while downplaying the evil acts that are actually being propagated by the US? Because normal people can understand the difference between a mistake and intentional acts. And between the scales of different actions.
      - applfanboysbgon 7mo ago
        > The war has multiple goals. One of which is explicitly not Iran's nuclear capacity, as confirmed by one of the heads of state invading. > Because normal people can understand the difference between a mistake and intentional acts. Normal people can also understand that some things are too serious to pass off as "oopsie". We have terms like "manslaughter" or "aggravated murder" for when your reckless negligence leads to loss of human life. You are still responsible for the murders you cause when you take actions with intent that you know will lead to people dying without intending any specific one of those deaths.
        trimethylpurine 7mo ago
        Military action always has civilian casualties. All you can do is hope and make effort to reduce them. And I'm glad we're on the side that does that.
        applfanboysbgon 7mo ago
        You are absolutely not on the side that does that. The US has killed millions of civilians over the past century in all of the wars it's partaken in and pardons its own war criminals, on the very rare occasion it bothers to try them in the first place. Fuck me American propaganda is in another world.
        beedeebeedee 7mo ago
        Israeli propaganda. America is fighting this war but not leading it
    - trimethylpurine 7mo ago
      I'm coming all the way back to this comment because it points out how misinformed your stance is. You're referring to Iran's attacks on the US as hypothetical, but they aren't. For 4 decades Iran has attacked Americans including the intentional targeting of civilians. https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2026/03/06/iranian-and-iranian-backed-attacks-against-americans-1979-present-2/ https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2026/03/06/iranian-and-iranian-...

Because that was not the subject of the conversation. Iran's military killing civilians is bad, but that does not somehow justify also killing their civilians. WTF even is your logic?

trimethylpurine 7mo ago
It certainly doesn't justify killing civilians.
mhb 7mo ago
The US made a mistake while attempting to ensure that insane theocrats who are close to building nuclear weapons are not able to. The fondest wish of the religious lunatics in charge of Iran (and we know this because they have told us) is to annihilate the US and Israel. They have demonstrated missiles that can reach Europe. These dots don't seem hard to connect.
- applfanboysbgon 7mo ago
  > who are close to building nuclear weapons This is a lie. Not only is it not the stated purpose of the war, even Netanyahu himself went out of the way to say that Iran had no remaining capability to accomplish this and that was not why they were invaded. > They currently have demonstrated missiles that can reach Europe. The US demonstrated its missiles can reach schools in Iran. Why are we more concerned with scaremongering about what hypothetical evil acts Iran could commit while downplaying the evil acts that are actually being propagated by the US?
  - mhb 7mo ago
    The war has multiple goals. > Why are we more concerned with scaremongering about what hypothetical evil acts Iran could commit while downplaying the evil acts that are actually being propagated by the US? Because normal people can understand the difference between a mistake and intentional acts. And between the scales of different actions.
    - applfanboysbgon 7mo ago
      > The war has multiple goals. One of which is explicitly not Iran's nuclear capacity, as confirmed by one of the heads of state invading. > Because normal people can understand the difference between a mistake and intentional acts. Normal people can also understand that some things are too serious to pass off as "oopsie". We have terms like "manslaughter" or "aggravated murder" for when your reckless negligence leads to loss of human life. You are still responsible for the murders you cause when you take actions with intent that you know will lead to people dying without intending any specific one of those deaths.
      - trimethylpurine 7mo ago
        Military action always has civilian casualties. All you can do is hope and make effort to reduce them. And I'm glad we're on the side that does that.
        applfanboysbgon 7mo ago
        You are absolutely not on the side that does that. The US has killed millions of civilians over the past century in all of the wars it's partaken in and pardons its own war criminals, on the very rare occasion it bothers to try them in the first place. Fuck me American propaganda is in another world.
        beedeebeedee 7mo ago
        Israeli propaganda. America is fighting this war but not leading it
  - trimethylpurine 7mo ago
    I'm coming all the way back to this comment because it points out how misinformed your stance is. You're referring to Iran's attacks on the US as hypothetical, but they aren't. For 4 decades Iran has attacked Americans including the intentional targeting of civilians. https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2026/03/06/iranian-and-iranian-backed-attacks-against-americans-1979-present-2/ https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2026/03/06/iranian-and-iranian-...