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Good. You don't get to use my computer for a DDoS. I don't care why the DDoS was happening. I wasn't asked, and that's a serious breach of trust.

by _moof 7mo ago

rdevilla 7mo ago
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- winkelmann 7mo ago
  Call me naive, but I still believe that people generally disapprove of their internet connection being abused to conduct cyber-attacks.
  - rdevilla 7mo ago
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longislandguido 7mo ago
Breach of trust by a site whose unstated primary purpose is bypassing paywalls and ripping off content? 20 years ago during the P2P heyday this was assumed to come with the territory. Play with fire and you could get burned. If you walk into a seedy brothel in the developing world, your first thought should be "I might get drugged and robbed here" and not what you're going to type in the Yelp review later about their lack of ethics.
- celdon25 7mo ago
  I always thought that mainstream media sites with paywalls were pretty far down there in the tier list of websites though. Not sure if this analogy lands unless irony was the goal.
  - jojomodding 7mo ago
    I trust websites not to involve me in crime. I trust news websites to tell me the news. I trust archive websites to give me old versions of websites. I trust paywall circumvention websites to circumvent paywalls. What I do not see is the irony you insinuate in your post. It is not immoral to charge people for content, nor does that make you less credible. (It might even make you more credible since you now earn money by having happy customers instead of serving more ads.) Some news sources are not trustworthy but that's independent of there being a paywall.
- kay_o 7mo ago
  Given they are retroactively tampering with past archives it's not exactly trustworhy in the first place
  - JasonADrury 7mo ago
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    - colejohnson66 7mo ago
      Content. https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2026/02/wikipedia-bans-archive-today-after-site-executed-ddos-and-altered-web-captures/ https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2026/02/wikipedia-bans-a...
  - vachina 7mo ago
    Proof?
    - Hamuko 7mo ago
      https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2026/02/wikipedia-bans-archive-today-after-site-executed-ddos-and-altered-web-captures/ https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2026/02/wikipedia-bans-a...
      - flexagoon 7mo ago
        That doesn't say anything about them tapering with archive content
        frenchtoast8 7mo ago
        Yes it does. The last section of the article. https://megalodon.jp/2026-0219-1634-10/https://archive.ph:443/LZymb https://megalodon.jp/2026-0219-1634-10/https://archive.ph:44... This is an archive of an Archive.is archive of a blog post. The first sentence of the post says “ Jani Patokallio was a woman of exceptional intellect…” This was changed, it originally had someone else’s name (see second paragraph). So, who knows what other archived pages were changed?
- bawolff 7mo ago
  Well if we are going to use this analogy, 20 years ago virus scanners also flagged malicious stuff from p2p as a virus, and people still thought putting malicious content on p2p was a shitty thing for someone to do (even if it was somewhat expected). Nobody was shedding any tears 20 years ago for the virus makers who had their viruses flagged by virus scanners.

Good. You don't get to use my computer for a DDoS. I don't care why the DDoS was happening. I wasn't asked, and that's a serious breach of trust.

by _moof 7mo ago

Good. You don't get to use my computer for a DDoS. I don't care why the DDoS was happening. I wasn't asked, and that's a serious breach of trust.

rdevilla 7mo ago

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winkelmann 7mo ago
Call me naive, but I still believe that people generally disapprove of their internet connection being abused to conduct cyber-attacks.
- rdevilla 7mo ago
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longislandguido 7mo ago

Breach of trust by a site whose unstated primary purpose is bypassing paywalls and ripping off content? 20 years ago during the P2P heyday this was assumed to come with the territory. Play with fire and you could get burned. If you walk into a seedy brothel in the developing world, your first thought should be "I might get drugged and robbed here" and not what you're going to type in the Yelp review later about their lack of ethics.

celdon25 7mo ago
I always thought that mainstream media sites with paywalls were pretty far down there in the tier list of websites though. Not sure if this analogy lands unless irony was the goal.
- jojomodding 7mo ago
  I trust websites not to involve me in crime. I trust news websites to tell me the news. I trust archive websites to give me old versions of websites. I trust paywall circumvention websites to circumvent paywalls. What I do not see is the irony you insinuate in your post. It is not immoral to charge people for content, nor does that make you less credible. (It might even make you more credible since you now earn money by having happy customers instead of serving more ads.) Some news sources are not trustworthy but that's independent of there being a paywall.
kay_o 7mo ago
Given they are retroactively tampering with past archives it's not exactly trustworhy in the first place
- JasonADrury 7mo ago
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  - colejohnson66 7mo ago
    Content. https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2026/02/wikipedia-bans-archive-today-after-site-executed-ddos-and-altered-web-captures/ https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2026/02/wikipedia-bans-a...
- vachina 7mo ago
  Proof?
  - Hamuko 7mo ago
    https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2026/02/wikipedia-bans-archive-today-after-site-executed-ddos-and-altered-web-captures/ https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2026/02/wikipedia-bans-a...
    - flexagoon 7mo ago
      That doesn't say anything about them tapering with archive content
      - frenchtoast8 7mo ago
        Yes it does. The last section of the article. https://megalodon.jp/2026-0219-1634-10/https://archive.ph:443/LZymb https://megalodon.jp/2026-0219-1634-10/https://archive.ph:44... This is an archive of an Archive.is archive of a blog post. The first sentence of the post says “ Jani Patokallio was a woman of exceptional intellect…” This was changed, it originally had someone else’s name (see second paragraph). So, who knows what other archived pages were changed?
bawolff 7mo ago
Well if we are going to use this analogy, 20 years ago virus scanners also flagged malicious stuff from p2p as a virus, and people still thought putting malicious content on p2p was a shitty thing for someone to do (even if it was somewhat expected). Nobody was shedding any tears 20 years ago for the virus makers who had their viruses flagged by virus scanners.