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I am not here to take a position on the larger discussion you're having, but a couple of your points here are deeply flawed. > Let me reverse this argument: wh

I am not here to take a position on the larger discussion you're having, but a couple of your points here are deeply flawed. > Let me reverse this argument: why have 3 people (number of bus drivers/number of buses) serving as a dedicated driver just for 18 people (average bus load)? They don't. They serve as a dedicated driver for 18 people x however many trips they make in a day. That's a significantly higher number. > > Just imagine how much real estate those cars would take, on the road and parking. > Not much more than a bus, actually. About 2-3x more. The average bus load is just around 18 people, even in NYC. Same problem here. The bus makes several trips; one bus handles 18 people in an average trip but far more people in a day. Those "far more people" take far more than 18 parking spots if they all drive.

cyberax 7mo ago
> They don't. They serve as a dedicated driver for 18 people x however many trips they make in a day. > That's a significantly higher number. That's just 1 trip, because 18 people per bus is already an average. It already takes into account people who do multiple trips. > Same problem here. The bus makes several trips; one bus handles 18 people in an average trip but far more people in a day. Those "far more people" take far more than 18 parking spots if they all drive. I see that you're already trying to justify the horribleness of transit by denying it: "Maybe it's not THAT bad". Sorry. It is. Transit is horrible.
- AnimalMuppet 7mo ago
  Given how bad you are at trying to guess my motives, you should probably stop. I didn't say transit was not horrible; I said your reasoning is faulty. You didn't address the issue at all. Perhaps you attempted to, by mentioning that people do multiple trips. OK, how many do they do? 2? 3? What's the average? But how many does a driver do? 8 a day? 12? 20? So your argument " why have 3 people (number of bus drivers/number of buses) serving as a dedicated driver just for 18 people (average bus load)?" is completely flawed. One driver is driving 18 people per load, times the average number of trips per day that the driver makes, divided by the average number of trips per day that a passenger makes. That is still far higher than 18, and your logic on this point is still broken.

cyberax 7mo ago

> They don't. They serve as a dedicated driver for 18 people x however many trips they make in a day. > That's a significantly higher number. That's just 1 trip, because 18 people per bus is already an average. It already takes into account people who do multiple trips. > Same problem here. The bus makes several trips; one bus handles 18 people in an average trip but far more people in a day. Those "far more people" take far more than 18 parking spots if they all drive. I see that you're already trying to justify the horribleness of transit by denying it: "Maybe it's not THAT bad". Sorry. It is. Transit is horrible.

AnimalMuppet 7mo ago
Given how bad you are at trying to guess my motives, you should probably stop. I didn't say transit was not horrible; I said your reasoning is faulty. You didn't address the issue at all. Perhaps you attempted to, by mentioning that people do multiple trips. OK, how many do they do? 2? 3? What's the average? But how many does a driver do? 8 a day? 12? 20? So your argument " why have 3 people (number of bus drivers/number of buses) serving as a dedicated driver just for 18 people (average bus load)?" is completely flawed. One driver is driving 18 people per load, times the average number of trips per day that the driver makes, divided by the average number of trips per day that a passenger makes. That is still far higher than 18, and your logic on this point is still broken.