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It’s not even a debate if these controls are problematic. The litmus test is to mentally substitute the age field for an ancestry field and place the system in
by cluckindan 7mo ago
It’s not even a debate if these controls are problematic. The litmus test is to mentally substitute the age field for an ancestry field and place the system in 1930’s Germany.
Coincidently, that system was provided by IBM.
- bluegatty 7mo ago'Preventing children from buying guns is Nazism!' Actually, this sentiment is a 'litmus test' for common sense. We use age discrimination universally in all affairs, across the globe, across all cultures. Of course the same thing is going to apply to 'content', it's just a lot harder and creates ugly externalizations. It's a real problem, with no real solutions, at least not yet.
- cluckindan 7mo agoNobody is arguing that gun shops shouldn’t check buyers’ ID. That’s a strawman. The situation is more like we set up a new system of checkpoint booths on every highway at city limits, and anyone entering the city gets their ID checked, and that is justified by claiming that it’s so children can’t buy guns.
- bluegatty 7mo agoReferences to 'nanny state' are the strawman. Also - your analogy is wrong - we are not 'age verifying' the whole web, we're 'age verifying' things that ostensibly should be 'age verified'. Let's just say - 'porn' - to keep it simple. Porn is to be 'age verified' on the web literally like it is in the city shop. You don't have to present your ID to read CNN. They're not saying 'present your id to get into the city, but into the porn shop' Youre screaming strawman's and presenting strawmans. The issue is more nuanced then you've presented.
- cluckindan 7mo agoYou seem to have misunderstood the situation completely. The laws being passed in US states force OS level age and identity verification, shifting the responsibility away from individual websites.