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Hawaii's worst flooding in 20 years threatens dam, prompts evacuations
- user2722 7mo ago[flagged]
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- GorbachevyChase 7mo agoSo I guess the hacker news downvote police got after this one because it was actually informative? Am I reading this right?
- alex43578 7mo agoMore because it's AI-slop that doesn't say much more than "government and big business bad".
- GorbachevyChase 7mo agoI don’t see a trace of mark down or em dashes. I think maybe you’re perhaps a little too emotionally invested in politics
- sneak 7mo agohttps://git.eeqj.de/sneak/prompts/src/branch/main/prompts/LLM_PROSE_TELLS.md https://git.eeqj.de/sneak/prompts/src/branch/main/prompts/LL...
- alex43578 7mo agoFirstly, I could care less about the regional politics of Hawaii's infrastructure. I was just answering why this was likely getting downvoted. As for it being AI, GPTZero puts it at 99% AI. "Insolvency insurance" is used out of context, incorrectly mixing the financial metaphors he told the AI to use with the more-relevant idea of flood insurance (was insolvency supposed to be the AI's attempt at a pun around liquids?). There's the classic AI "it isn't X, it's Y" structure structure at the end. The whole thing reads as a prompt of "Recontextualize the potential flood caused by the failure of Wahiawa Dam in Hawaii through a lens of politics, business, and finance". Markdown, em-dashes, and emojis were AI-slop 101 a year ago. You gotta keep up.
- pfannkuchen 7mo ago> disaster—it's
- tokioyoyo 7mo agoOne cool thing about reading different forums for decades is you get this instinct on spotting AI-generated content. Obviously not 100%, and if you tune your prompts properly it’s impossible to catch. However this just doesn’t sound human-y. No clue how to explain it. But it also sucks because I’m sure I incorrectly tag some real comments as AI slop.
- user2722 7mo agoYou are right. However I've found most market absolutists write similar to this. The fault is always someone else's. I had thought I had gotten the contents humanly sociopathic enough to go below the LLM radar. I actually intended to leave a comment explaining but I started to lose points and deleted the explanation; I was however unable to delete the main comment.
- AndrewKemendo 7mo agoI wouldn’t trip It’s pervasive at this point that “its AI” is a lazy retort when people have to use a portion of their brains
- user2722 7mo agoYa but in this case, it _is_ AI. It was just an experiment though -- most market absolutists talk like this.
- datsci_est_2015 7mo agoI like the way you write, fwiw.
- FireBeyond 7mo agoAnd having seen what happened on Maui after the fires, and seeing just how real the concern of many was - that so many homes were in family for generations, and that's the only way some of those families can afford to be there, and seeing them being unable to rebuild or ... tragic. (Though I don't know that there's the same human element to the Lahaina fires).
- tadfisher 7mo agoI was in Oahu last week in a place that experienced 10 inches of rainfall in one day. I had never been in a situation where stepping outside felt like turning on a shower.
- YZF 7mo agoHawaii gets a lot of rain. IIRC there are some places that are amongst the highest rainfall anywhere. I experienced a flash flood on Maui near Hana. We were hiking there with no rain when we started and turned into torrential rain. Quite an experience. The campground turned into a swamp with knee high water.
- storus 7mo agoRegular thing in Hilo or Waiʻaleʻale.
- magicalhippo 7mo agoWe stayed on the Kona side of the Big Island, but took a day trip to Hilo. Such a weird experience, going from dry barren landscape to a lush rain forest in an hour or so.
- huijzer 7mo agoHawaii again? I hope it’s not too bad for the non-zuckerbergs
- phainopepla2 7mo agoAre there people out there with Zuckerberg derangement syndrome, who can't hear about something only distantly related without bringing him up? Kauai, where Zuckerberg's estate is, has not been affected. So yes, it's been bad for non-Zuckerbergs
- GorbachevyChase 7mo agoI mean, he did sue a bunch of poor people to remove any possibility that they might make ancestral claims on or around his super abundance of land. It is in really bad taste and a testament to his lack of character.
- mothballed 7mo agoThere's a long history of rich assholes moving in and using their property rights in bizarre ways that gain them basically nothing while fucking everyone else. Oprah bought a huge estate in Maui, then used it to block the back road from Kihei to upcountry, forcing a much longer drive around. It doesn't go through anything of interest to Oprah or gain her anything, just a big fuck you to everyone else because she can.
- markdown 7mo agoDo they not have eminent domain laws in Hawaii?
- mothballed 7mo agoNot sure, but during the wildfires people went through anyway.
- beacon294 7mo ago
- longislandguido 7mo agoIs it me or is infrastructure in Hawaii in general really terrible and falling apart? Much more so than the mainland.
- semicolon_storm 7mo agoEverything's more costly in Hawaii, including maintaining infrastructure
- GunnarHolwerda 7mo agoThis is true we work with emergency management in Hawaii. Look up the Jones Act. All shipped goods end up having to hit the mainland before going to Hawaii which is a major contributor to increased costs of goods there.
- vladgur 7mo agoA quick google search on jones act and hawaii reveals this page hosted by International Longshore and Warehouse Union (ILWU) https://www.ilwulocal142.org/news-item/jones-act-fact-vs-myth https://www.ilwulocal142.org/news-item/jones-act-fact-vs-myt... Few things listed there are clearly false. "Myth #2: The Jones Act Raises Prices for Hawai‘i Residents. However, a comprehensive 2020 study by Reeve & Associates and TZ Economics found that this is simply not true. Their survey compared the prices of 200 consumer goods—including groceries, household items, clothing, and automobiles—at major retailers like Costco, Home Depot, Target, and Walmart in both Honolulu and Los Angeles. The results showed that prices in Hawai‘i were, on average, only 0.5% higher than on the mainland, a negligible difference that cannot be attributed to the Jones Act alone." As a frequent visitor to Oahu, i stop by Costco on the way from the airport and i can see that most consumables including milk and meat is 30-50% more expensive than at Northern California Costco. This is representative across local supermarkets as well. So its seems that this union is trying to minimise the impact of shipping on costs of everyday goods Critics dismiss this study as bogus: https://www.grassrootinstitute.org/2020/07/shipping-industry-study-claims-jones-act-benefits-hawaii-economy-yes-really/ https://www.grassrootinstitute.org/2020/07/shipping-industry... "using online prices to compare food prices at Hawaii versus Los Angeles stores is problematic. A visit today to the Keeaumoku Street Walmart showed an 18-ounce box of Cheerios selling for $4.26, before tax, versus $3.64 for its listed online price, and a four-pack of 5-ounce cans of albacore tuna for $8.43 versus $6.74 online." That is actually true, Keamoku Walmart does not pricematch to their online prices and the only way to get those prices is to place an pickup order and wait for several hours to pick up at those prices.
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