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Look at the videos coming out of Iran - civilian infrastructure and residences are clearly being targeted. Some unexploded bombs have been found that lack a JDA

• magic_hamster 7mo ago
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  • GordonS 7mo ago
    Be serious, look at what has been done to Gaza. Israel absolutely sets out to murder civilians, en-masse.
    • magic_hamster 7mo ago
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      • srean 7mo ago
        https://content.forensic-architecture.org/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/Israeli-Executions-of-Palestinian-Aid-Workers.pdf https://content.forensic-architecture.org/wp-content/uploads...
      • Hikikomori 7mo ago
        All the children shot in the head as reported by western doctors working there?
        • jiggawatts 7mo ago
          I looked into that one, because it was so outlandish but repeated by multiple sources and reported by reputable journalists. The original reporting was carefully phrased to make it sound like IDF soldiers were "sniping" little children, taking careful aim and deliberately shooting them in the head, which is... monstrous. Where this narrative starts to breaks down is that snipers don't aim for the head, because it's too small a target. Additionally, most of the reports mentioned that the children were shot "in the street" in scuffles with ordinary army grunts, so where were these mysterious "child-murdering snipers"? How were they so reliably hitting small moving targets in the head? It turns out that this phenomenon was a product of Gaza's demographics combined with survivorship bias. Half of Gaza's population is under 18! Teenagers are technically "children", but they're out in the streets throwing rocks or whatever at IDF troops, and get shot at in return. The ones that get hit by half a dozen rounds to the chest die on the spot and aren't taken to hospital because obviously, hospitals are for people that can be saved, not the dead. All of the reports of "children getting shot in the head" were coming from surgeons in hospitals, but they were seeing a biased sample: victims that only got hit once had a chance to survive. Similarly, a minor head-wound isn't instantly lethal, whereas a single round centre-mass typically is. So they were seeing victims with single shots to the head instead of multiple to the chest. They then cooked up a narrative that would explain what they were seeing, not realising that the cause wasn't "evil child murdering snipers", but simply a statistically biased view of a war that is not especially more unethical than any other armed conflict.
          • jacquesm 7mo ago
            Oh, that's ok then. /s ffs
            • jiggawatts 7mo ago
              War makes people angry, and angry people are trivially swayed by propaganda. For example, there's thousands of people still screeching online that the US deliberately bombed little girls in Iran. No, they hit a girls school by accident, it used to be an IRGC military base building and is surrounded by IRGC buildings! I don't condone Israel's actions in Gaza, nor do I condone the US/Israeli attacks on Iran. Having said that, it's important in a war -- irrespective of what side one is supporting or opposing -- not to believe exaggerations or outright lies. War is bad enough, we don't have to sprinkle imaginary horrors on top of the real ones! In the worst case, if too many people spout transparently obvious propaganda, then that discounts the believability of the true horrors. This is most obvious today with the "that's just a fake AI video" retorts, but before it was "fake news", or whatever. Diluting the truth harms it.
          • pcthrowaway 7mo ago
            There are videos of Palestinians being shot in the head, yes (NSFL links below) Here's a video from last year of an elderly man carrying a white flag being shot in the head: https://www.wgbh.org/tv-shows/newshour/clip/war-in-the-holy-land-1706138139 https://www.wgbh.org/tv-shows/newshour/clip/war-in-the-holy-... (this news site removed the moment of impact but I'm sure you can still find it) Here's a video of IDF in the West Bank head-shotting an unarmed elderly man who posed no threat: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_David_Ben_Avraham https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_David_Ben_Avraham In this one, the man had converted to Judaism after feeling an affinity to the religion due to his grandfather saving the lives of more than 10 Jews during the 1929 Hebron massacre. His Aliyah request was denied, and he was executed while attempting to visit a settlement (by invitation) for Torah study This one from 2018 was widely circulated (this victim was shot in the leg, although based on the IDF recording here many had assumed this was also a headshot): https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/apr/10/video-appears-show-cheers-israeli-sniper-shoots-palestinian https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/apr/10/video-appears-... Here's a very detailed report on 15 aid workers in Gaza being executed at point blank range and dumped into a mass grave last year: https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/israeli-soldiers-tel-sultan-gaza-red-crescent-civil-defense-massacre-report-forensic-architecture-earshot https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/israeli-soldiers-tel-sultan-g... These are just ones that come to mind as some of the most brutal ones, but there are many, many more videos of the IDF executing unarmed Palestinians who are posing no threat by head-shot. And for every one we see there are likely 4 or 5 more which we don't see because they weren't independently recorded.
    • flyinglizard 7mo ago
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      • user3939382 7mo ago
        “ The bombing, combined with other simultaneous Israeli military actions in Gaza, killed at least 68,000 Palestinians (mostly civilians), which is between 3% and 4% of the total population of the territory, and damaged or destroyed Palestinian schools, hospitals, mosques, churches, and other civilian infrastructure including refugee camps.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_bombing_of_the_Gaza_Strip https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_bombing_of_the_Gaza_St... You can play word games all you like.
        • flyinglizard 7mo ago
          In October 7th 2023, about 11% of the residents of Kibbutz Be'eri - 130 out of 1200 - were murdered, raped, tortures and/or kidnapped into Gaza: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Be%27eri_massacre https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Be%27eri_massacre
          • user3939382 7mo ago
            translation: Uh oh, he has irrefutable evidence everything I just argued for 5 replies was a lie. Quick! Change the subject to “two wrongs make a right” I know, I’ll equate 120 people with tens of thousands of murdered children.
            • cindyllm 7mo ago
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  • thunky 7mo ago
    Holy shit what rock are you living under? Israel is villifying itself just fine.
    • magic_hamster 7mo ago
      I argue that anyone saying this is watching too many TikTok videos and not really familiar with what's going on. Without going into too much detail, my position and line of work means that I have to keep very informed on the middle east and so far I've seen a lot of hatred, and very little factual basis. In fact every single person I personally talked to was very uninformed on these matters which is fine, as long as you accept it and don't form extreme opinions on entire countries.
      • srean 7mo ago
        https://content.forensic-architecture.org/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/Israeli-Executions-of-Palestinian-Aid-Workers.pdf https://content.forensic-architecture.org/wp-content/uploads...
        • magic_hamster 7mo ago
          I'd appreciate if you didn't spam the same link all over my comments, once is enough. And as for "forensic architecture", please visit their website and go over who these people are - especially the Palestinians from Ramallah and self proclaimed "activists". This is by no means an unbiased organization.
          • srean 7mo ago
            Then don't go asking for a report in all of your comments on this page where you have, once is enough. Forensic Architecture is one of the most reputed organizations for this line of work. Their reports are read with great deal of respect here on HN and they cover more than this conflict. If they don't count as credible and competent, nothing will satisfy you -- the moral equivalent of covering one's eyes and ears. So I will appreciate if you stop this sham of yours of asking for a citation. While you are at it, do better than ad hominem. I am still waiting to hear an argument about the content of the extensive and methodical report. For HN audience, the report was discussed on HN here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47136179 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47136179
  • srean 7mo ago
    https://content.forensic-architecture.org/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/Israeli-Executions-of-Palestinian-Aid-Workers.pdf https://content.forensic-architecture.org/wp-content/uploads...
• jandrewrogers 7mo ago
  Again, that's not "carpet bombing". Carpet bombing requires a type of aircraft that Israel doesn't have (though the US does). Why would you expect a precision bomb to have a JDAM package? That is not the only type of guidance package. In fact, most of the footage I've seen (largely Israeli) has clearly been laser-guided bombs. They aren't the same thing, and the latter is more precise than JDAM in any case. Use of precision-guided bombs in a city is not "carpet bombing".
  • GordonS 7mo ago
    Even if their actions might not precisely meet some dictionary definition of "carpet bombing", you know well what I meant - civilians and civilian infrastructure are being deliberately targeted with complete disregard for loss of life and environmental consequences.
    • jiggawatts 7mo ago
      That’s called war. You’re parroting IRGC propaganda, which is why people are arguing with you. “We are innocent civilians and the Israelis are carpet bombing us”… said by the people that funded October 7th and killed more of their own people than the Israeli bombs did. Iran’s government has been violently belligerent for decades, and continues to this day to bomb its Arab neighbours including hitting their civilians! They don’t get to whine about the morality of civilian versus military deaths.
      • GordonS 7mo ago
        Iran has absolutely not been violent for decades. And they don't "continue" to bomb their Arab neighbours - they are only bombing them now because they allowed their land to be used to attack Iran. What exactly are Iran supposed to do here? Just give up, allow their country to be infested with ISIS and Al Qaeda, allow their country balkanised, their citizens massacred indiscriminatly?
    • idop 7mo ago
      You meant to lie, and you did lie, and you continue to lie. Standard TikTok rage where words no longer have meaning, reality must be rejected, and any headline is true even if the article directly negates it or there's no source, so long as it makes Israel look bad. I swear, it's almost as if the anti-Israel mob _wants_ it to be true.