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I'm now an AI bro, and a long-time fan of the EFF (though they occasionally make a mistake). I think this EFF piece could be more forthright (rather than polit
by neilv 7mo ago
I'm now an AI bro, and a long-time fan of the EFF (though they occasionally make a mistake).
I think this EFF piece could be more forthright (rather than political persuasion), since the matter involves balancing multiple public interest goals that are currently in opposition.
> Organizations like the Internet Archive are not building commercial AI systems.
This NiemanLab article lists evidence that Internet Archive explicitly encouraged crawling of their data, which was used for training major commercial AI models:
| News publishers limit Internet Archive access due to AI scraping concerns (niemanlab.org) | 569 points by ninjagoo 34 days ago | 366 comments | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47017138 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47017138
> [...] over a fight that libraries like the Archive didn't start, and didn't ask for.
They started or stumbled into this fight through their actions. And (ideology?) they also started and asked for a related fight, about disregard of copyright and exploitation of creators:
| Internet Archive forced to remove 500k books after publishers' court win (arstechnica.com) | 530 points by cratermoon on June 21, 2024 | 564 comments | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40754229 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40754229