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Iranian kids have been chanting death to Israel and death to USA for 47 years now. They’ve been waiting for this.

srean 6mo ago
Well, if US takes down their democracy and downs their domestic passenger jets, fight a proxy war with chemical weapons through Saddam Hussein that alone kills 20~30 thousand, no country is going to respond to that with flowers in their hair. In Iran's defence, in spite of being attacked repeatedly with chemical weapons, not once have they retaliated with chemical weapons. This is in line with their beliefs which was formalized into a fatwa by the late Khamenei against nuclear weapons. I would call that taking a pretty principled stand at a time when it would have been very tempting to redefine them.
- gambutin 6mo ago
  Have you ever been in Iran? Do you know any Iranians and have you talked to them recently? Do you know what Khomeini did to his fellow leftist who toppled the Shah?
  - srean 6mo ago
    No. But many that I know have. They all had a lovely lovely time and to this day reminisce fondly about the hospitality they received from the people, from the officials. As complete strangers they were invited into their homes to share dinner with family, with much post dinner merriment and singing and dancing. Note, my people were complete strangers to them, foreigners too. Some of my people were young men, they giggle and blush telling stories they were approached openly by women, no burqa in sight. These people still try to stay in occasional touch to this day. Yes (many). Yes. Also what US planted Shah's SAVAK did to his political opponents. So what was your point again that you were presumably making, if any at all. Ah I see. You took a random shot hoping it would stick and silence. Tsk tsk. Maybe you are new here, those things don't work so well around here. All Iranians reading this on HN, thank you for your generosity and hospitality. No one can top yours, seriously. Americans are generally friendly people, but Iranians really hit hospitality and show of heart out of the park.
    - gambutin 6mo ago
      Thank you.
bigfatkitten 6mo ago
Funnily enough, they are still a bit salty about the US and UK overthrowing their government in 1953, because that government started asking questions about how much oil the UK was stealing.
thrance 6mo ago
You'll be surprised to hear about what they have been chanting in the streets of Tel Aviv for decades. This cycle of violence can't be resolved by more violence. By starting this war for no reason, Israel and the US will only succeed in further radicalizing the Iranian people against them.

srean 6mo ago

Well, if US takes down their democracy and downs their domestic passenger jets, fight a proxy war with chemical weapons through Saddam Hussein that alone kills 20~30 thousand, no country is going to respond to that with flowers in their hair. In Iran's defence, in spite of being attacked repeatedly with chemical weapons, not once have they retaliated with chemical weapons. This is in line with their beliefs which was formalized into a fatwa by the late Khamenei against nuclear weapons. I would call that taking a pretty principled stand at a time when it would have been very tempting to redefine them.

gambutin 6mo ago
Have you ever been in Iran? Do you know any Iranians and have you talked to them recently? Do you know what Khomeini did to his fellow leftist who toppled the Shah?
- srean 6mo ago
  No. But many that I know have. They all had a lovely lovely time and to this day reminisce fondly about the hospitality they received from the people, from the officials. As complete strangers they were invited into their homes to share dinner with family, with much post dinner merriment and singing and dancing. Note, my people were complete strangers to them, foreigners too. Some of my people were young men, they giggle and blush telling stories they were approached openly by women, no burqa in sight. These people still try to stay in occasional touch to this day. Yes (many). Yes. Also what US planted Shah's SAVAK did to his political opponents. So what was your point again that you were presumably making, if any at all. Ah I see. You took a random shot hoping it would stick and silence. Tsk tsk. Maybe you are new here, those things don't work so well around here. All Iranians reading this on HN, thank you for your generosity and hospitality. No one can top yours, seriously. Americans are generally friendly people, but Iranians really hit hospitality and show of heart out of the park.
  - gambutin 6mo ago
    Thank you.

bigfatkitten 6mo ago

Funnily enough, they are still a bit salty about the US and UK overthrowing their government in 1953, because that government started asking questions about how much oil the UK was stealing.

thrance 6mo ago

You'll be surprised to hear about what they have been chanting in the streets of Tel Aviv for decades. This cycle of violence can't be resolved by more violence. By starting this war for no reason, Israel and the US will only succeed in further radicalizing the Iranian people against them.