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> "It's not that you refrain from doing something because it will offend Russia. If Russia is doing something that we don't want it to do, we should offend them

> "It's not that you refrain from doing something because it will offend Russia. If Russia is doing something that we don't want it to do, we should offend them."[0] Has Russia ever refrained from offending the West when it suited their interests? > And should I mention the US "midwifing" the coup in Ukraine in 2014? [2] It takes some really stupid arrogance to say shit like this when Ukraine literally had Russian stooge as a president at the time, installed via fossil fuel extortion. If Russia wanted truly neutral Ukraine, they should've backed the fuck off in the first place.

drysine 7mo ago
>Has Russia ever refrained from offending the West Of course. Like abstaining in a UN SC vote, allowing NATO bomb Libya. >Russian stooge as a president at the time, installed via fossil fuel extortion Nope, Yanukovich was elected by Ukrainian people.[0] Previous pro-Western president received only 6% of votes in the first round. >If Russia wanted truly neutral Ukraine, they should've backed the fuck off in the first place. Enlighten me, how backing off when the US supports pro-Western coup in the Ukraine would've resulted in "truly neutral Ukraine"? And please mind your language [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Ukrainian_presidential_election#Results https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Ukrainian_presidential_el...
- wiseowise 7mo ago
  > Of course. Like abstaining in a UN SC vote, allowing NATO bomb Libya. The generosity! > Nope, Yanukovich was elected by Ukrainian people.[0] Tell me more of those exciting stories. From your link: >> After all ballots were counted, the Ukrainian Central Election Commission declared that Yanukovych won the election with 48.95% of the vote compared with 45.47% for Tymoshenko. > Previous pro-Western president received only 6% of votes in the first round. After the guy was poisoned, disfigured beyond repair all while fighting smear campaigns calling him beekeeper. You should've linked [0] when you talk about Yushchenko, comrade. > Enlighten me, how backing off when the US supports pro-Western coup in the Ukraine would've resulted in "truly neutral Ukraine"? And please mind your language Quid pro quo, it's a really tough principle for Russian to understand, because they're only used to extortion. > And please mind your language Your attempt at patronizing is as pathetic as Russian military takeover of Ukraine. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005%E2%80%932006_Russia%E2%80%93Ukraine_gas_dispute https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005%E2%80%932006_Russia%E2%80...
  - drysine 7mo ago
    >Ukrainian Central Election Commission declared that Yanukovych won the election with 48.95% of the vote compared with 45.47% for Tymoshenko Looks like typical American election. What's your point? >After the guy was poisoned After he was poisoned (by Ukrainians, btw), he was elected the president of the Ukraine. Fast forward 4 years and his approval ratings were 2-4% [0] >You should've linked [0] when you talk about Yushchenko, comrade. I fail to understand what point you are trying to make by referring to an article about Ukraine stealing Russian gas and getting caught. >Quid pro quo The US installs pro-Western government and then it becomes neutral because of what? [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Ukrainian_presidential_election#Opinion_polls https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Ukrainian_presidential_el...

drysine 7mo ago

>Has Russia ever refrained from offending the West Of course. Like abstaining in a UN SC vote, allowing NATO bomb Libya. >Russian stooge as a president at the time, installed via fossil fuel extortion Nope, Yanukovich was elected by Ukrainian people.[0] Previous pro-Western president received only 6% of votes in the first round. >If Russia wanted truly neutral Ukraine, they should've backed the fuck off in the first place. Enlighten me, how backing off when the US supports pro-Western coup in the Ukraine would've resulted in "truly neutral Ukraine"? And please mind your language [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Ukrainian_presidential_election#Results https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Ukrainian_presidential_el...

wiseowise 7mo ago
> Of course. Like abstaining in a UN SC vote, allowing NATO bomb Libya. The generosity! > Nope, Yanukovich was elected by Ukrainian people.[0] Tell me more of those exciting stories. From your link: >> After all ballots were counted, the Ukrainian Central Election Commission declared that Yanukovych won the election with 48.95% of the vote compared with 45.47% for Tymoshenko. > Previous pro-Western president received only 6% of votes in the first round. After the guy was poisoned, disfigured beyond repair all while fighting smear campaigns calling him beekeeper. You should've linked [0] when you talk about Yushchenko, comrade. > Enlighten me, how backing off when the US supports pro-Western coup in the Ukraine would've resulted in "truly neutral Ukraine"? And please mind your language Quid pro quo, it's a really tough principle for Russian to understand, because they're only used to extortion. > And please mind your language Your attempt at patronizing is as pathetic as Russian military takeover of Ukraine. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005%E2%80%932006_Russia%E2%80%93Ukraine_gas_dispute https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005%E2%80%932006_Russia%E2%80...
- drysine 7mo ago
  >Ukrainian Central Election Commission declared that Yanukovych won the election with 48.95% of the vote compared with 45.47% for Tymoshenko Looks like typical American election. What's your point? >After the guy was poisoned After he was poisoned (by Ukrainians, btw), he was elected the president of the Ukraine. Fast forward 4 years and his approval ratings were 2-4% [0] >You should've linked [0] when you talk about Yushchenko, comrade. I fail to understand what point you are trying to make by referring to an article about Ukraine stealing Russian gas and getting caught. >Quid pro quo The US installs pro-Western government and then it becomes neutral because of what? [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Ukrainian_presidential_election#Opinion_polls https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Ukrainian_presidential_el...