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> The original reason behind the DVD scrambling system "needing" to be cracked was the lack of software DVD players for the Linux operating system. Also, this

by flomo 7mo ago

> The original reason behind the DVD scrambling system "needing" to be cracked was the lack of software DVD players for the Linux operating system. Also, this is a false history, and more of an ex-post-facto justification. The original DeCSS was a VisualBasic program written by some W1nd0z h8X0r teenager. Not for any greater cause, just because they could.

anthk 7mo ago
Internet says nothing about that; and using VB for DeCSS it's as 'serious' as quickly hacking Perl or TCL (for its day) in order to complete a simple prototype. If any I can just see C++ code which is pretty much portable because you can decouple I/O with ease, altough under Unix you would need to use ioctl's to command the DVD drive in a low level way. https://github.com/cthpw103/decss https://github.com/cthpw103/decss But for just decoding a dumped ISO Perl would be more than enough, from parsing UDF headers to unscramble the media. It would last hours instead of 15 minutes under my Athlon 2000 but if would work the same.
- flomo 7mo ago
  VB could bang on any Win32 C API, so there's no reason to disbelieve this. In the modern sense it's like saying you couldn't write this in Go. Direct question: do you know what you are talking about, or are you just spewing keywords and reddit mime dancing?
  - anthk 7mo ago
    So did Perl with bindings and TCL interoperating in two ways. Reddit? I used to compile mplayer and libdvdcss long ago, and even if the prior version was VB/C++ bound, it was the open code (FLOSS) the one who survived every takedown attempt. The same with Nagra encoding and XawTV for some propietary channels in TV. You can decode any stream (and even extract subtitles) thanks to free software. Even BTTV cards will still work. Go try that with Windows 7 and up. If you can find drivers, that's it. And working decoding software not messing up with DDraw based codecs and rendering. I was there, and it was the free software the one who broke most of the chains. Propietary software today it's useless.
    - flomo 7mo ago
      Apologies. This place is filling up with bots and buzzword bingo posters. I thought you were just rifting on whatever unix shit used be popular.

by flomo 7mo ago

anthk 7mo ago

Internet says nothing about that; and using VB for DeCSS it's as 'serious' as quickly hacking Perl or TCL (for its day) in order to complete a simple prototype. If any I can just see C++ code which is pretty much portable because you can decouple I/O with ease, altough under Unix you would need to use ioctl's to command the DVD drive in a low level way. https://github.com/cthpw103/decss https://github.com/cthpw103/decss But for just decoding a dumped ISO Perl would be more than enough, from parsing UDF headers to unscramble the media. It would last hours instead of 15 minutes under my Athlon 2000 but if would work the same.

flomo 7mo ago
VB could bang on any Win32 C API, so there's no reason to disbelieve this. In the modern sense it's like saying you couldn't write this in Go. Direct question: do you know what you are talking about, or are you just spewing keywords and reddit mime dancing?
- anthk 7mo ago
  So did Perl with bindings and TCL interoperating in two ways. Reddit? I used to compile mplayer and libdvdcss long ago, and even if the prior version was VB/C++ bound, it was the open code (FLOSS) the one who survived every takedown attempt. The same with Nagra encoding and XawTV for some propietary channels in TV. You can decode any stream (and even extract subtitles) thanks to free software. Even BTTV cards will still work. Go try that with Windows 7 and up. If you can find drivers, that's it. And working decoding software not messing up with DDraw based codecs and rendering. I was there, and it was the free software the one who broke most of the chains. Propietary software today it's useless.
  - flomo 7mo ago
    Apologies. This place is filling up with bots and buzzword bingo posters. I thought you were just rifting on whatever unix shit used be popular.