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> how is a submarine commander committing war crimes? News reports from both Russia and Ukraine stated he was the commander of K-148 Krasnodar, a submarine tha

> how is a submarine commander committing war crimes? News reports from both Russia and Ukraine stated he was the commander of K-148 Krasnodar, a submarine that at the time of his command engaged in missile attacks on Ukrainian cities. From a BBC article: > Ukrainian media has said he could have been in command of the vessel when it carried out a missile attack on the Ukrainian city of Vinnytsia in July 2022, which killed 28 people, including three children. Also, it's clear that a military officer is obviously a legitimate military target in a war.

veltas 7mo ago
> Also, it's clear that a military officer is obviously a legitimate military target in a war. Former
- locknitpicker 7mo ago
  > Former According to reports, he was the commander of the submarine when it was conducting bombing missions on civilian targets in Ukraine. What possibly compels you to believe your "former" qualifier has any relevance?
  - veltas 7mo ago
    Relevant to the accuracy of quote
  - necovek 7mo ago
    According to the quote above, he "could have been at the helm", and his family has claimed he hasn't. Something, something, due process.
roysting 7mo ago
Who do you see as the “legitimate military target” in America due to America’s war of aggression on Iran? You imply it would be any military officer, anywhere, at any time, retired or not.
- ta20240528 7mo ago
  For active soldiers, yes - kill them, any time, anywhere. That's what "at war" means. Its not a policing operation.
  - gzread 7mo ago
    This thought - of being legitimately killed at any time anywhere - should scare people. Good! If the reality of war scares you, don't start wars.
- applfanboysbgon 7mo ago
  Correct. The US assassinated Iran's leader and dozens of their military officers. Do you seriously believe Iran would somehow be in the wrong to kill any American officer it can? It is eerie how closely the American mentality parallels that of the German regime. "The Nazis entered this war on the rather childish delusion that they were going to bomb everybody and nobody was going to bomb them."
  - roysting 7mo ago
    I understand your sentiment, but all parties, including the Israeli state are signatories and have ratified the Geneva Convention, making the actions of Israel and it's American attack oaf (full disclosure, I am American, whatever that even still means) war crimes, and technically based on the precedent from the Nurenberg trial, makes the USA and arguably its accessory, Israel responsible and guilty of all war crimes due to initiating the illegal war of aggression, the "mother of all war crimes". We are facing a far greater calamity than I get the sense most really have any understand for. Effectively all international institutions have exposed themselves as some variation of incompetent, shams, husks, utterly ineffectual, and even downright evil (e.g., condemning Iran essentially for being attacked) because the subordinated, pathetic vassal dungeon gimp countries and institutions are afraid and/or seek continued favor and the approval of their suzerain master/King.
    - applfanboysbgon 7mo ago

veltas 7mo ago

> Also, it's clear that a military officer is obviously a legitimate military target in a war. Former

locknitpicker 7mo ago
> Former According to reports, he was the commander of the submarine when it was conducting bombing missions on civilian targets in Ukraine. What possibly compels you to believe your "former" qualifier has any relevance?
- veltas 7mo ago
  Relevant to the accuracy of quote
- necovek 7mo ago
  According to the quote above, he "could have been at the helm", and his family has claimed he hasn't. Something, something, due process.

roysting 7mo ago

Who do you see as the “legitimate military target” in America due to America’s war of aggression on Iran? You imply it would be any military officer, anywhere, at any time, retired or not.

ta20240528 7mo ago
For active soldiers, yes - kill them, any time, anywhere. That's what "at war" means. Its not a policing operation.
- gzread 7mo ago
  This thought - of being legitimately killed at any time anywhere - should scare people. Good! If the reality of war scares you, don't start wars.
applfanboysbgon 7mo ago
Correct. The US assassinated Iran's leader and dozens of their military officers. Do you seriously believe Iran would somehow be in the wrong to kill any American officer it can? It is eerie how closely the American mentality parallels that of the German regime. "The Nazis entered this war on the rather childish delusion that they were going to bomb everybody and nobody was going to bomb them."
- roysting 7mo ago
  I understand your sentiment, but all parties, including the Israeli state are signatories and have ratified the Geneva Convention, making the actions of Israel and it's American attack oaf (full disclosure, I am American, whatever that even still means) war crimes, and technically based on the precedent from the Nurenberg trial, makes the USA and arguably its accessory, Israel responsible and guilty of all war crimes due to initiating the illegal war of aggression, the "mother of all war crimes". We are facing a far greater calamity than I get the sense most really have any understand for. Effectively all international institutions have exposed themselves as some variation of incompetent, shams, husks, utterly ineffectual, and even downright evil (e.g., condemning Iran essentially for being attacked) because the subordinated, pathetic vassal dungeon gimp countries and institutions are afraid and/or seek continued favor and the approval of their suzerain master/King.
  - applfanboysbgon 7mo ago