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There's more to this. Iran, not happy with protesters, killed 30 000 of its own unarmed civilians a few weeks ago (and sent its islamists into hospitals to fini

There's more to this. Iran, not happy with protesters, killed 30 000 of its own unarmed civilians a few weeks ago (and sent its islamists into hospitals to finish the wounded). A few days ago they publicly killed an athlete who spoke against the regime. And because they cannot retaliate by sending nuclear bombs on to Israel and on to the US they... Attack every single neighbouring country? Including other countries ran by islamist cracknuts who also rule by sharia law? I don't want to know what a country who publicly executes athletes, who kills 30 000 of its own and who throws a tantrum by attacking every single neighbouring country would do once it'd get nuclear weapons. I know there are many people who are going to guarantee us that a country doing these horrible things would suddenly be all wise and nice once it'd have nuclear weapons but I think these people are, at best, totally delusional.

cthalupa 7mo ago
> would do once it'd get nuclear weapons. If only we had had a deal that the entire intelligence community had agreed was working where Iran had agreed to stop developing nuclear weapons. That would have been a nice thing to have. What a good world that would have been. Too bad... Wait. Wait. You're telling me we had that deal? And that Donald Trump is the one that ended it in his previous term, thus once again being the root cause for this conundrum? Shit.
- sQL_inject 7mo ago
  This is just wrong and frankly naive. While Israel has always been crying wolf over them having nuclear weapons, they had facilities purifying uranium to weapons grade up and running. We can debate whether they were close to a nuke or not, or whether they'd strike as far as the West, but Iran wasn't stopping trying to create a warhead.
  - cthalupa 7mo ago
    They had stopped when the deal was in place. They resumed after it went away, and had most of a decade to get the previous stuff out of mothballs and continue. No one seriously suggests that Iran had continued working on their nuclear weapons program while the Obama deal was in place. Edit: The IAEA had 24/7 access to the sites and constently verified they were abiding by the deal. Trump himself testified twice they were abiding by the deal. They had dismantled their heavy-water reactor and could not produce plutonium, had gotten rid of 97% of it's enriched uranium, turned off 2/3rds of their centrifuges, and was not producing weapons grade enriched uranium. Under the deal they did not have any uranium enriched beyond 4%. After we withdrew, they had since been able to get up to 60% enriched.
thunky 7mo ago
If they had nukes maybe the US and Israel wouldn't feel so comfortable "obliterating" them and triggering all the consequences that follow.
nirav72 7mo ago
North Korea executes its own citizens and anyone that speaks out against the Kim regime. It also has nukes and even occasionally even fires missiles over our allys. I can name a few other countries that have harshly responded against protestors in recent years. Why aren’t we attacking them? Trump vowed that the U.S will no longer be the world police. Using your rational , this is the U.S being the police. Disclaimer - I voted for Trump believing what he said about staying out of conflicts like these. I’ve come to the realization that I made a mistake.
locknitpicker 7mo ago
> There's more to this. Iran, not happy with protesters, killed 30 000 of its own unarmed civilians (...) The Trump admin reported a myriad of inconsistent reasons to bomb Iran. None of them was Iran murdering protesters. In fact, one of the first justifications was that Israel was going to bomb Iran first, so the US somehow decided to go in first for God knows whatever reason. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Iran_war https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Iran_war

cthalupa 7mo ago

> would do once it'd get nuclear weapons. If only we had had a deal that the entire intelligence community had agreed was working where Iran had agreed to stop developing nuclear weapons. That would have been a nice thing to have. What a good world that would have been. Too bad... Wait. Wait. You're telling me we had that deal? And that Donald Trump is the one that ended it in his previous term, thus once again being the root cause for this conundrum? Shit.

sQL_inject 7mo ago
This is just wrong and frankly naive. While Israel has always been crying wolf over them having nuclear weapons, they had facilities purifying uranium to weapons grade up and running. We can debate whether they were close to a nuke or not, or whether they'd strike as far as the West, but Iran wasn't stopping trying to create a warhead.
- cthalupa 7mo ago
  They had stopped when the deal was in place. They resumed after it went away, and had most of a decade to get the previous stuff out of mothballs and continue. No one seriously suggests that Iran had continued working on their nuclear weapons program while the Obama deal was in place. Edit: The IAEA had 24/7 access to the sites and constently verified they were abiding by the deal. Trump himself testified twice they were abiding by the deal. They had dismantled their heavy-water reactor and could not produce plutonium, had gotten rid of 97% of it's enriched uranium, turned off 2/3rds of their centrifuges, and was not producing weapons grade enriched uranium. Under the deal they did not have any uranium enriched beyond 4%. After we withdrew, they had since been able to get up to 60% enriched.

thunky 7mo ago

If they had nukes maybe the US and Israel wouldn't feel so comfortable "obliterating" them and triggering all the consequences that follow.

nirav72 7mo ago

North Korea executes its own citizens and anyone that speaks out against the Kim regime. It also has nukes and even occasionally even fires missiles over our allys. I can name a few other countries that have harshly responded against protestors in recent years. Why aren’t we attacking them? Trump vowed that the U.S will no longer be the world police. Using your rational , this is the U.S being the police. Disclaimer - I voted for Trump believing what he said about staying out of conflicts like these. I’ve come to the realization that I made a mistake.

locknitpicker 7mo ago

> There's more to this. Iran, not happy with protesters, killed 30 000 of its own unarmed civilians (...) The Trump admin reported a myriad of inconsistent reasons to bomb Iran. None of them was Iran murdering protesters. In fact, one of the first justifications was that Israel was going to bomb Iran first, so the US somehow decided to go in first for God knows whatever reason. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Iran_war https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Iran_war