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I actually agree on the point about linking to primary sources, but having said that Florian Mueller is a proven shill and his analysis should never be trusted

I actually agree on the point about linking to primary sources, but having said that Florian Mueller is a proven shill and his analysis should never be trusted at face value by anyone, particularly when he's analyzing anything to do with Google.

malandrew 14y ago
I never claimed he was unbiased just like no one would claim that Gruber is unbiased. But having posts from source like CNET that just water down the original source make it to the front page adds absolutely nothing of value. Imagine if every John Gruber article worthy of making it to the front-page only ever made it to the front page after being laundered by a site like CNET? I think everyone can agree that we would be worse off without the original voices. One of the biggest losses of not having original voices, even from the most biased of biased bloggers, is that it also dilutes the counter-arguments of those on HN that provide the balance to biased articles. For example, a direct link to Florian Meuller's article may elicit a response from a contributor like yourself where you point out where Florian's analysis may be wrong and shouldn't be trusted. Without Florian's post to rebut, it's more likely that people like yourself would remain silent on the issue.
- blrgeek 14y ago
  Perhaps we should just agree to link to Groklaw instead of a paid shill? [Who doesn't always admit his backers?]
  - malandrew 14y ago
    I definitely like groklaw above the rest. Did he post on this issue as well?
    - blrgeek 14y ago
      She, Pamela Jones [aka PJ], has posted far more reasoned, and unbiased [by money] posts on Motorola Vs Apple. http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20121105153442192 http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20121105153442192 and http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=2012110322254380 http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=2012110322254380 are just the latest on throwing this FRAND case out.

malandrew 14y ago

I never claimed he was unbiased just like no one would claim that Gruber is unbiased. But having posts from source like CNET that just water down the original source make it to the front page adds absolutely nothing of value. Imagine if every John Gruber article worthy of making it to the front-page only ever made it to the front page after being laundered by a site like CNET? I think everyone can agree that we would be worse off without the original voices. One of the biggest losses of not having original voices, even from the most biased of biased bloggers, is that it also dilutes the counter-arguments of those on HN that provide the balance to biased articles. For example, a direct link to Florian Meuller's article may elicit a response from a contributor like yourself where you point out where Florian's analysis may be wrong and shouldn't be trusted. Without Florian's post to rebut, it's more likely that people like yourself would remain silent on the issue.

blrgeek 14y ago
Perhaps we should just agree to link to Groklaw instead of a paid shill? [Who doesn't always admit his backers?]
- malandrew 14y ago
  I definitely like groklaw above the rest. Did he post on this issue as well?
  - blrgeek 14y ago
    She, Pamela Jones [aka PJ], has posted far more reasoned, and unbiased [by money] posts on Motorola Vs Apple. http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20121105153442192 http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20121105153442192 and http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=2012110322254380 http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=2012110322254380 are just the latest on throwing this FRAND case out.