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The MacBook Neo is a game changer. Unless you’re a gamer or have other specific use cases, that’s it. 500$ and it does what you need. From a corporate pov, I

The MacBook Neo is a game changer. Unless you’re a gamer or have other specific use cases, that’s it. 500$ and it does what you need. From a corporate pov, I know I’d rather support 500 Neos over 500 generic laptops. One vendor is responsible for everything. No bickering between Intel , Microsoft and Lenovo when things go wrong. I reckon schools will get the Neo for 450 to 400 at volume. And app developers have to meet good software again, your end user only has eight gigs of RAM.

timpera 7mo ago
> And app developers have to meet good software again, your end user only has eight gigs of RAM. I wouldn't bet on it, especially in an corporate setting. IT departments seem to love filling every inch of their firm laptop's CPU and RAM with security and remote access stuff. I've seen that same thing happen in every company I've worked for recently: high-end laptops sitting at 100% ressource usage absolutely all the time.
- 999900000999 7mo ago
  Seems like a good niche to explore. Make your security software run in 200MB. Or clean up other stuff. Teams can be very ram hungry for what it needs to actually do. I'm tempted to pick a Neo up and see how it likes Flutter applications.
  - _the_inflator 7mo ago
    Please walk the walk. You never worked in a corporate environment. It is just as the author said: developers are a pretty new phenomenon after all in these companies and are after all suspiciously treated because of leakage. And as long as Word and Excel is starting on a business guy machine the day is saved. And controlling works this way: 10.000 machines? Wow what?! Those so called developers demand 32gb RAM? WTF!? Word doesn’t need that much and I can save 10.000 times 16 to 24gb, so let’s do it because I get paid by saving the company money!!! Meanwhile developer cost balloon because build times etc are through the roof. It is as dumb as it gets. Don’t try to play genius. Countless of people as well as so called “initiatives” have been done to balance total costs - without any success due to ignorance. I know first hand - I am the only one who ever saved Germany’s largest bank money by utilizing IT software build in-house. And believe me, I used genius as well as every possibility there was. It is brutal.
anonymousiam 7mo ago
How many years of support does Apple guarantee with the Neo? At some point in the future, even though the hardware is fine, it will be unsupported, and potentially vulnerable to whatever exploits are built into its version of MacOS. Perhaps by that time the M3 will have better Linux support, but dealing with the 8GB memory size limitation will become more difficult as time ticks by.
- 999900000999 7mo ago
  https://www.macworld.com/article/673939/this-is-how-long-macs-and-macbooks-last.html https://www.macworld.com/article/673939/this-is-how-long-mac... According to this they're still supporting a 2017 IMac, 9 years is a decent amount of time. Apple can always change their minds and extend this out with security only fixes indefinitely.

timpera 7mo ago

> And app developers have to meet good software again, your end user only has eight gigs of RAM. I wouldn't bet on it, especially in an corporate setting. IT departments seem to love filling every inch of their firm laptop's CPU and RAM with security and remote access stuff. I've seen that same thing happen in every company I've worked for recently: high-end laptops sitting at 100% ressource usage absolutely all the time.

999900000999 7mo ago
Seems like a good niche to explore. Make your security software run in 200MB. Or clean up other stuff. Teams can be very ram hungry for what it needs to actually do. I'm tempted to pick a Neo up and see how it likes Flutter applications.
- _the_inflator 7mo ago
  Please walk the walk. You never worked in a corporate environment. It is just as the author said: developers are a pretty new phenomenon after all in these companies and are after all suspiciously treated because of leakage. And as long as Word and Excel is starting on a business guy machine the day is saved. And controlling works this way: 10.000 machines? Wow what?! Those so called developers demand 32gb RAM? WTF!? Word doesn’t need that much and I can save 10.000 times 16 to 24gb, so let’s do it because I get paid by saving the company money!!! Meanwhile developer cost balloon because build times etc are through the roof. It is as dumb as it gets. Don’t try to play genius. Countless of people as well as so called “initiatives” have been done to balance total costs - without any success due to ignorance. I know first hand - I am the only one who ever saved Germany’s largest bank money by utilizing IT software build in-house. And believe me, I used genius as well as every possibility there was. It is brutal.

anonymousiam 7mo ago

How many years of support does Apple guarantee with the Neo? At some point in the future, even though the hardware is fine, it will be unsupported, and potentially vulnerable to whatever exploits are built into its version of MacOS. Perhaps by that time the M3 will have better Linux support, but dealing with the 8GB memory size limitation will become more difficult as time ticks by.

999900000999 7mo ago
https://www.macworld.com/article/673939/this-is-how-long-macs-and-macbooks-last.html https://www.macworld.com/article/673939/this-is-how-long-mac... According to this they're still supporting a 2017 IMac, 9 years is a decent amount of time. Apple can always change their minds and extend this out with security only fixes indefinitely.